General Leafs Talk: Post-Olympics Edition

[GhostofPotvin29]

Some comments from Ron Wilson on watching the Leafs go through what he went through:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/29813/former-leafs-coach-wilson-feels-the-pain

Nice to see Ronny climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.

He was head coach when something similar happened to the Leafs, and Lebrun contacted him for his comments.  Hardly 'climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.'  How is it opportune for him to bring up the comparison with this collapse and his?  Hey look I was head coach for a collapse too!!

I believe these are his first public comments since his departure, that's what I have a problem with.

He was on the NHL Network earlier in the season doing some commentary.

 

[Derk]

Some comments from Ron Wilson on watching the Leafs go through what he went through:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/29813/former-leafs-coach-wilson-feels-the-pain

Nice to see Ronny climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.

He was head coach when something similar happened to the Leafs, and Lebrun contacted him for his comments.  Hardly 'climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.'  How is it opportune for him to bring up the comparison with this collapse and his?  Hey look I was head coach for a collapse too!!

I believe these are his first public comments since his departure, that's what I have a problem with. He chose to wait to comment on the Leafs misfortunes, making himself not look so bad. He's a little weasel.

Or maybe no one asked him about the Leafs until now because no one would have cared about his comments.

I accidentally had the radio on a few minutes ago and MacLean and Kypreos were giving this same opinion (sans weasel), so I have automatically taken the opposite view.

 

[Redleaf]

Some comments from Ron Wilson on watching the Leafs go through what he went through:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/29813/former-leafs-coach-wilson-feels-the-pain

Nice to see Ronny climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.

He was head coach when something similar happened to the Leafs, and Lebrun contacted him for his comments.  Hardly 'climbing out from under his rock at an opportune time.'  How is it opportune for him to bring up the comparison with this collapse and his?  Hey look I was head coach for a collapse too!!

I believe these are his first public comments since his departure, that's what I have a problem with. He chose to wait to comment on the Leafs misfortunes, making himself not look so bad. He's a little weasel.

Or maybe no one asked him about the Leafs until now because no one would have cared about his comments.

I accidentally had the radio on a few minutes ago and MacLean and Kypreos were giving this same opinion (sans weasel), so I have automatically taken the opposite view.

Wilson always struck me as someone indirectly related to the weasel family. Perhaps a ferret of some kind? I think it's the beady eyes.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

?It?s pretty hard to coach there without allowing some of these things to kind of affect you,? Wilson said. ?That goes for the coaches, but the players, as well. You can?t go anywhere without hearing about what?s going wrong or all this kind of stuff.

?I really feel for the coaching staff and, above all, for Randy right now. He?s got the same thousand-yard stare that I had. But at the end, you almost feel like it?s completely out of your control, everything takes on a life of its own. It?s unbelievable.?

Disgusting. Wilson should be ashamed of himself.

 

[nutman]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

 

[bustaheims]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

He's down near the very bottom of the list of guys I'd put behind the bench of an NHL hockey team.

 

[nutman]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

He's down near the very bottom of the list of guys I'd put behind the bench of an NHL hockey team.

Why?

 

[Leaflifer]

?I really feel for the coaching staff and, above all, for Randy right now. He?s got the same thousand-yard stare that I had. But at the end, you almost feel like it?s completely out of your control, everything takes on a life of its own. It?s unbelievable.?

Quitters.

 

[bustaheims]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

He's down near the very bottom of the list of guys I'd put behind the bench of an NHL hockey team.

Why?

Well, his complete lack of coaching experience at any level, for one.

 

[ZBBM]

?It?s pretty hard to coach there without allowing some of these things to kind of affect you,? Wilson said. ?That goes for the coaches, but the players, as well. You can?t go anywhere without hearing about what?s going wrong or all this kind of stuff.

?I really feel for the coaching staff and, above all, for Randy right now. He?s got the same thousand-yard stare that I had. But at the end, you almost feel like it?s completely out of your control, everything takes on a life of its own. It?s unbelievable.?

Said The Loser to The Loser.

 

[Highlander]

Nik is not a coach for sure.. Let his mug stay on camera

 

[caver]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

He's down near the very bottom of the list of guys I'd put behind the bench of an NHL hockey team.

Why?

Well, his complete lack of coaching experience at any level, for one.

do you have any good reasons ?? 

 

[nutman]

I wonder if Nick Kypreos could coach this bunch of lazy hockey players into a team with some drive.

He's down near the very bottom of the list of guys I'd put behind the bench of an NHL hockey team.

Why?

Well, his complete lack of coaching experience at any level, for one.

do you have any good reasons ?? 

Maybe as an assistant coach, he just seems like he has that kind of drive in him he could get the team to buy into.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Kypreos has the kind of drive that would urge the players to fire slapshots at his head during practices.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Tuesday?s game against Burke?s Flames marked the 428th regular season outing that Nonis has been a high ranking hockey exec with the Leafs, the equivalent of more than five 82-game seasons.

In that time, they?ve won just 190 times ? or 36 per 82 games ? and been the equivalent of an 83-point team in a league where 92 is the average. 

How you apportion blame for what?s gone on over those years ? including the Leafs playoff hopes once again being on life support, even after Tuesday?s win ? is up for debate, but what?s noteworthy is just how involved Nonis was in high level decisions even back when Burke was in charge.

Several outside executives have noted, for one, that late in Burke?s tenure Nonis was the de facto GM, dealing with contract negotiations and acting as an influential counterbalance to his mentor?s more impulsive decision making.

What?s clear, too, is that both men view the game in a similar way. Like Burke, Nonis emphasizes size and toughness in his teams, and even went so far as to tailor his roster in the off-season to a likeminded coach in Randy Carlyle, a Burke hire whose head now sits on the firing line.

So while Burke may be long gone, off on another adventure, the Leafs mantra certainly appears largely unchanged, even in the face of all those losses over the years.

Nonis, Poulin and Loiselle have carried on a similar vision and it?s produced similar results, at least in the wake of last year?s successful half-season, with the roster that had been set when Burke was still involved.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-ghosts-of-brian-burkes-tenure-still-haunt-struggling-leafs/article17764199/

 

[bustaheims]

Maybe as an assistant coach, he just seems like he has that kind of drive in him he could get the team to buy into.

Because he talks loudly on TV? Yeah. I don't think that translates the way you want it to. Also, even for an assistant coach, I want someone who can teach the game, develop and execute strategies, etc., and there's absolutely nothing about Kypreos that says he can do any of that.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Maybe as an assistant coach, he just seems like he has that kind of drive in him he could get the team to buy into.

Because he talks loudly on TV? Yeah. I don't think that translates the way you want it to. Also, even for an assistant coach, I want someone who can teach the game, develop and execute strategies, etc., and there's absolutely nothing about Kypreos that says he can do any of that.

His face can take a punch...sort of

 

[princedpw]

Tuesday?s game against Burke?s Flames marked the 428th regular season outing that Nonis has been a high ranking hockey exec with the Leafs, the equivalent of more than five 82-game seasons.

In that time, they?ve won just 190 times ? or 36 per 82 games ? and been the equivalent of an 83-point team in a league where 92 is the average. 

How you apportion blame for what?s gone on over those years ? including the Leafs playoff hopes once again being on life support, even after Tuesday?s win ? is up for debate, but what?s noteworthy is just how involved Nonis was in high level decisions even back when Burke was in charge.

Several outside executives have noted, for one, that late in Burke?s tenure Nonis was the de facto GM, dealing with contract negotiations and acting as an influential counterbalance to his mentor?s more impulsive decision making.

What?s clear, too, is that both men view the game in a similar way. Like Burke, Nonis emphasizes size and toughness in his teams, and even went so far as to tailor his roster in the off-season to a likeminded coach in Randy Carlyle, a Burke hire whose head now sits on the firing line.

So while Burke may be long gone, off on another adventure, the Leafs mantra certainly appears largely unchanged, even in the face of all those losses over the years.

Nonis, Poulin and Loiselle have carried on a similar vision and it?s produced similar results, at least in the wake of last year?s successful half-season, with the roster that had been set when Burke was still involved.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-ghosts-of-brian-burkes-tenure-still-haunt-struggling-leafs/article17764199/

Super-positive news!

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

This is re: Kadri v Bolland

@Hope_Smoke 

Dreger "we know what Bolland is. He's proven that in Chicago and he is solid on and off the ice. If you're asking me? I choose Bolland"

If shoes were clues he'd be barefoot.  Dreger better not be getting any of these thoughts from cousin Dave.

 

[Jalili]

"solid on and off the ice"

Subtle shot at Kadri.