General Leafs Talk v2.0

[armche123]

Hockey Futures has updated Toronto's prospect details:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/toronto_maple_leafs

Here are our top 20 Prospects according to them:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/95181/gauthier-debuts-at-number-two-spot-in-toronto-maple-leafs-top-20/

 

[Champ Kind]

I still don't see Liles being moved. he will be one of our top four

So then which of Gunnar, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Franson do you think won't be in the top 4?

Nik, Nik, Nik.....who says you can't have 5 in your top 4?

 

[bustaheims]

So then which of Gunnar, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Franson do you think won't be in the top 4?

Well, as things stand right now, the obvious answer would be Franson.

 

[bustaheims]

Or one of Rielly/Gardiner. But obviously you should trade age before beauty if you can.

I'm just not sure we can move him for anything we'd want.

You could also flip it and say one of those same two youngins could make Franson expendable.

Gardiner is already in the top 4, so, he doesn't exactly push anyone out right now. As for Rielly, you don't move out players to make spots for prospects until those prospects earn their way on to the team. Rielly hasn't done that yet, so, just like with the Franson situation, there's no pressing need to move Liles yet - which is the biggest reason Liles hasn't been moved. As things stand right now, Liles the player is more valuable to the Leafs than the roster spot or the cap space that would be freed up by moving him.

 

[Kin]

So then which of Gunnar, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Franson do you think won't be in the top 4?

Well, as things stand right now, the obvious answer would be Franson.

Yes, but this is in the world of Franson's reasonable contract extension.

 

[bustaheims]

Yes, but this is in the world of Franson's reasonable contract extension.

Sounds like a nice world. Let me know when it intersects with reality.

 

[Redleaf]

Yes, but this is in the world of Franson's reasonable contract extension.

Sounds like a nice world. Let me know when it intersects with reality.

I'd guess about 3 weeks into training camp.

 

[drummond]

TSN scoring projection:

Phil Kessel                82 35 45 80  -8  26
Nazem Kadri            76 23 35 58 +7  32
Joffrey Lupul            64 23 25 48 +2  44
James van Riemsdyk 71 23 22 45  -2  38
Tyler Bozak              78 17 24 41  -8  14
David Clarkson        81 24 17 41  -9 129
Dion Phaneuf          79 13 27 40  -6 101
Nikolai Kulemin        78 14 21 35  -1  26
Dave Bolland            70 15 18 33  -2  43
Cody Franson          72  7 26 33 +3  22
Jake Gardiner          75  7 24 31    0  16


Jonathan Bernier  50 24 2.39 0.917 2
James Reimer        35 18 2.59 0.915 3

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

 

[Kin]

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

Maybe. In 2011-2012 only 5 of the 16 playoff teams had 42 wins or fewer and those 5 averaged 12.8 loser points per team. That's cutting it really close.

 

[Champ Kind]

TSN scoring projection:

Phil Kessel                82 35 45 80  -8  26
Nazem Kadri            76 23 35 58 +7  32
Joffrey Lupul            64 23 25 48 +2  44
James van Riemsdyk 71 23 22 45  -2  38
Tyler Bozak              78 17 24 41  -8  14
David Clarkson        81 24 17 41  -9 129
Dion Phaneuf          79 13 27 40  -6 101
Nikolai Kulemin        78 14 21 35  -1  26
Dave Bolland            70 15 18 33  -2  43
Cody Franson          72  7 26 33 +3  22
Jake Gardiner          75  7 24 31    0  16


Jonathan Bernier  50 24 2.39 0.917 2
James Reimer        35 18 2.59 0.915 3

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

Yes!  Kadri and Franson are going to sign!!!11!!!1

 

[drummond]

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

Maybe. In 2011-2012 only 5 of the 16 playoff teams had 42 wins or fewer and those 5 averaged 12.8 loser points per team. That's cutting it really close.

Assuming the Leafs traditionally have hard time to win a SO, they should have enough 1 point games 8)

 

[CarltonTheBear]

TSN scoring projection:

I'm aware that this isn't a perfect comparison because of the lockout, but last season the Leafs top-11 goal scorers totaled 124 goals. Image that they score at that same rate over 82 games and it goes to 248. The top 11 projected goal scorers on that list goes to 201.

Last season Reimer and Scrivens combined for 26 wins. That projects to be 52 over the course of a full season, 10 more than TSN's prediction for next season.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Last season Reimer and Scrivens combined for 26 wins. That projects to be 52 over the course of a full season, 10 more than TSN's prediction for next season.

It would actually be 44 wins over 82 games

edit; if they actually started all 48 games which I can't remember if they did or not.

 

[Deebo]

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

Maybe. In 2011-2012 only 5 of the 16 playoff teams had 42 wins or fewer and those 5 averaged 12.8 loser points per team. That's cutting it really close.

There's also alot of minuses on there, that doesn't scream playoffs to me.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Weird that they even predicted +/-.

 

[mr grieves]

TSN scoring projection:

I'm aware that this isn't a perfect comparison because of the lockout, but last season the Leafs top-11 goal scorers totaled 124 goals. Image that they score at that same rate over 82 games and it goes to 248. The top 11 projected goal scorers on that list goes to 201.

Last season Reimer and Scrivens combined for 26 wins. That projects to be 52 over the course of a full season, 10 more than TSN's prediction for next season.

I guess TSN's projecting a drop off in the shooting percentage?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

TSN scoring projection:

I'm aware that this isn't a perfect comparison because of the lockout, but last season the Leafs top-11 goal scorers totaled 124 goals. Image that they score at that same rate over 82 games and it goes to 248. The top 11 projected goal scorers on that list goes to 201.

Last season Reimer and Scrivens combined for 26 wins. That projects to be 52 over the course of a full season, 10 more than TSN's prediction for next season.

I guess TSN's projecting a drop off in the shooting percentage?

So is everybody. Except maybe Nonis and Carlyle.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Weird that they even predicted +/-.

I'm assuming that it was for a fantasy thing.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Last season Reimer and Scrivens combined for 26 wins. That projects to be 52 over the course of a full season, 10 more than TSN's prediction for next season.

It would actually be 44 wins over 82 games

edit; if they actually started all 48 games which I can't remember if they did or not.

Ah, right. Had a brain fart there. And yeah, they started all 48 games. Rynnas played in one as a backup. So similar win totals, but neither of those projected SA%'s are close to Reimer's .924.

 

[drummond]

That?s playoffs bound team. 42W split between two goalies is something I would be very happy with.

Maybe. In 2011-2012 only 5 of the 16 playoff teams had 42 wins or fewer and those 5 averaged 12.8 loser points per team. That's cutting it really close.

There's also alot of minuses on there, that doesn't scream playoffs to me.

Tons of power play goals, I guess