Stickytape
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Attaboy Ben!RedLeaf said:And Scrivens gets a shutout, and first star of his first game as a King.
Although, to be fair, he only faced 20 shots in his first game. Back here in Toronto we call that "the first period".
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Attaboy Ben!RedLeaf said:And Scrivens gets a shutout, and first star of his first game as a King.
princedpw said:proteus2000 said:Reimer will get another chance to start next game. I would be surprised if he doesn't get 3 starts in a row this year - when he is on he's a great goalie.
In the end, though, Bernier will probably play 50-55 games with Reimer playing 30-35. Bernier is so composed vs Reimer (while good) is sort of spastic.
Hasek was also spastic but he was arguable the best goalie in history.
Moneyball pointed to the problem of evaluating players based on the way they "looked" as opposed to measuring how effective their performance is. I hope the Leafs brass does not fall in to this trap. I hope Bernier succeeds and puts up save percentage numbers over a whole season that are even better than Reimer's were last year. If his rebound control and stick-handling matters and his ability to save pucks is just as good or better than Reimer's then that is what we can hope for. I'm just going to wait 40+ games before I start to make a determination of whether that is the case ...
princedpw said:proteus2000 said:Reimer will get another chance to start next game. I would be surprised if he doesn't get 3 starts in a row this year - when he is on he's a great goalie.
In the end, though, Bernier will probably play 50-55 games with Reimer playing 30-35. Bernier is so composed vs Reimer (while good) is sort of spastic.
Hasek was also spastic but he was arguable the best goalie in history.
Moneyball pointed to the problem of evaluating players based on the way they "looked" as opposed to measuring how effective their performance is. I hope the Leafs brass does not fall in to this trap. I hope Bernier succeeds and puts up save percentage numbers over a whole season that are even better than Reimer's were last year. If his rebound control and stick-handling matters and his ability to save pucks is just as good or better than Reimer's then that is what we can hope for. I'm just going to wait 40+ games before I start to make a determination of whether that is the case ...
Stickytape said:Attaboy Ben!RedLeaf said:And Scrivens gets a shutout, and first star of his first game as a King.
Although, to be fair, he only faced 20 shots in his first game. Back here in Toronto we call that "the first period".
lamajama said:The last game showed Bernier isn't the second coming of
Bernie Parent so I think this tandem will work well. Unfortunately I think Bernier deserves to start against the Wild due to knowledge as it should really be Reimer.
Tigger said:Reimnier, keeping calm...
gunnar36 said:Reimer certainly leaves his share of rebounds out there...
OldTimeHockey said:It may not be the same game as Bernier but he outright stole that game tonight and that is all that matters.
hockeyfan1 said:OldTimeHockey said:It may not be the same game as Bernier but he outright stole that game tonight and that is all that matters.
Agree. Those fourteen shots alone in the 2nd period (?) were pivotal in keeping the team in the game. This win was his for the taking and he earned the victory (along with contributions from the Leafs d-men on the offence).
Stickytape said:hockeyfan1 said:OldTimeHockey said:It may not be the same game as Bernier but he outright stole that game tonight and that is all that matters.
Agree. Those fourteen shots alone in the 2nd period (?) were pivotal in keeping the team in the game. This win was his for the taking and he earned the victory (along with contributions from the Leafs d-men on the offence).
I get the picture that I'm the odd-man out here, but I didn't think Reimer had that marvelous of a game. He made some massive stops, that's for sure, but he got a bit lucky on rebounds, and played the puck poorly. There were several times when the Leafs badly needed a shift change, and Reimer just could not find a way to trap the puck. And several of his puck plays essentially forced turnovers. Both of these things are recurring problems with him.
That may just be me being picky, though - I really like Reimer and I don't like the way people feel he's either stealing games or letting everything in, with nothing in between. Sometimes he just has an average or pretty good game. This was a pretty good game, but not a great one, and not a steal IMO.
Michael said:Bernier makes one easy save and holds on for a face off. Reimer makes one easy save and kicks it back out to the opposition who then take shots two and three and Reimer makes outstanding saves on those.
In that scenario the shots are either 1-0 with 1 decent save by Bernier or 3-0 with a decent save and 2 great saves by Reimer. We could talk about how great saves 2 and 3 were and how Reimer is facing tons of shots and keeping the Leafs in it..... or we could wonder why he cannot control shot 1 to begin with and keep things simple and less dangerous.