hockeyfan1
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Saskatchewan Roughriders' players arm-in-arm during playing of O Canada at Mosaic Stadium Sunday afternoon...
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Idiocracy
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hockeyfan1
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Patriots' owner Robert Kraft statement:
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hockeyfan1
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And...
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dappleganger
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Authoritarian
au?thor?i?tar?i?an
əˌTH?rəˈterēən
adjective
1. favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
"the transition from an authoritarian to a democratic regime"
synonyms: autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, draconian, oppressive, repressive, illiberal, undemocratic;
au?thor?i?tar?i?an
əˌTH?rəˈterēən
adjective
1. favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
"the transition from an authoritarian to a democratic regime"
synonyms: autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, draconian, oppressive, repressive, illiberal, undemocratic;
dappleganger
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Zee said:
He's been at this for awhile: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-war-nfl-since-1986-200933386.html
herman
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Zee said:
When he does this (picking fights with celebrities, or whatever), he's basically masking some other garbage he is doing or actual work he is not doing. For example, Puerto Rico is in dire straits. Mueller's investigation into Manafort's dealings is ramping up significantly. I'm pretty sure he has zero involvement in the healthcare bill that the GOP is trying to get through to kill off their opposing voter base, which is probably for the better, insofar as his involvement is concerned.
bustaheims
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herman said:
It's also served to help them take control of the narrative in regard to the protest, and make it all about "disrespecting" the flag and the anthem, instead about racial inequalities and injustices it was actually about. The purpose of the protest has gotten so lost in all this discussion, which is unfortunately a win for the bad guys.
herman
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bustaheims said:
Always easier to argue for the side that only needs a mantra to explain its 'reasons', rather than a nuanced exploration of systemic cultural biases intersecting with moral and ethical boundaries in light of a troubled and hypocritical history.
Speaking of changing the narrative to be about the flag and disrespect for said flag: this beautiful Twitter thread doing great work.
https://twitter.com/koopa_kinte/status/911715150507454464
www.twitter.com/koopa_kinte/status/911715150507454464
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Just when you thought you couldn't love a hockey player more...
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/912325355012345856
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Yeah, but then...
https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/912326660480958464
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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He's a 20-year-old from Arizona, I'm certain he has been raised to have that attitude.
The fact though that he recognizes people's right to protest, regardless of his own feelings, is important.
The fact though that he recognizes people's right to protest, regardless of his own feelings, is important.
bustaheims
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herman said:
Yeah, I saw that. It's wonderful in how it shows just how little many people criticizing the protest really know about properly respecting the flag. Unfortunately, very few of them will read it, and even fewer will be have their opinion impacted by what they've read.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Oh, yeah I'm certainly not going to lump him into the group of racist Trump supporters, but it's still a disappointing statement (which, like you said, is something kids from all over the States are unfortunately programmed to think).
bustaheims
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Yup. The important part of his POV is that, in spite of his disagreement with the style of protest, he absolutely recognizes and agrees with the right players like Kaepernik have to do so. There's a big difference between saying "I wouldn't do that" and "You shouldn't do that."
Kin
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herman said:
I think you're giving him too much credit here. Yeah, sure, Bush and Rove I think were capable of that sort of misdirection. I don't think Trump really gives much serious thought to the positive or negative consequences of his statements. He just likes it when people cheer for him at rallies and he knew this was some red meat he could throw these people. I don't think there are any Trump supporters who, absent what happened yesterday, would really give a damn about Puerto Rico or Mueller.
Fuller statement from Shilton:
It's still a problem to me that he views kneeling as disrespectful to the military when it's literally the opposite. I mean, I'd like to see him try and have a conversation about that with people from the Seattle Seahawks who released this statement on why they no-showed:
It's still a problem to me that he views kneeling as disrespectful to the military when it's literally the opposite. I mean, I'd like to see him try and have a conversation about that with people from the Seattle Seahawks who released this statement on why they no-showed:
https://twitter.com/So_Truculent/status/912332056385990658
I don't disagree with this either. Reporters are focusing on the wrong issue in regards to this topic.
I don't disagree with this either. Reporters are focusing on the wrong issue in regards to this topic.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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bustaheims said:
Exactly, but people will drag him over the coals for not giving what they consider a perfect answer and that's indicative of the problems in the political climate right now.
For a lot of people, acknowledging the right to protest is not enough, if you don't support their ideas 100% you are the enemy and they'll twist what's said to make you look like the enemy.
I think it's that kind of attitude that led a portion of moderates to vote for a guy like Trump, they were sick of being called the bad guy when they largely considered themselves moderates, they just didn't agree with the entire platform on the left and that made them personae non gratae. I think the majority of these people now deeply regret their vote.
To be clear, I'm a European liberal, the Democrats would be right-wing were I'm from, I think it's important to consider other people's motivations though.