Islanders vs. Maple Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050
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Guilt Trip
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Yup. Go for it..Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
OT could have gone either way. I'm not too concerned about that. After 60 minutes, M&M 46 second shift of 3 on 3. They were gassed and laboring to get back.
Islanders had the better goalie tonight. I didn't think Samsonov was bad. Just not as good. He was swimming. We could debate how stoppable some of the goals were.
The difference to me was how effective the Islanders forecheck was - particularly in the 1st. And the Leafs seemed half asleep when confronting it in the first. They got into a hole which they crawled out of to their credit. They did better in the 2nd & 3rd. But the Islanders showed how to crack the Leafs D. To me, that was the biggest difference.
I think they did well to salvage a point.
Islanders had the better goalie tonight. I didn't think Samsonov was bad. Just not as good. He was swimming. We could debate how stoppable some of the goals were.
The difference to me was how effective the Islanders forecheck was - particularly in the 1st. And the Leafs seemed half asleep when confronting it in the first. They got into a hole which they crawled out of to their credit. They did better in the 2nd & 3rd. But the Islanders showed how to crack the Leafs D. To me, that was the biggest difference.
I think they did well to salvage a point.
ZBBM
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I was thinking fatigue was part of the problem in OT. And then cw pointed it out, and so did MLHS. While the overall minutes were well-managed, 16 and 34 played hard for the last 2-3 minutes just to get it to OT.
Tavares really dialed it up at the end. 3 straight faceoff wins to give the Leafs repeated chances to tie it. We may crab about how much cap space he takes up, but he's still elite at what he does best.
Tavares really dialed it up at the end. 3 straight faceoff wins to give the Leafs repeated chances to tie it. We may crab about how much cap space he takes up, but he's still elite at what he does best.
azzurri63
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't buy that. When the puck went into the Leafs end and McCabe went back to get it and thwarted the Isle forward who then went off along with the other Isle forward. Horvat and Brazil came on. Both Marner and Matthews could have went off. Instead they decided to play heroes and it cost them. If they were gassed it sure didn't look like it Marner put his head down and skated back hard. Matthews maybe not so but maybe he figured he'd take the trailer. If you're tired get off. Not the first time they've cost us in OT and at times it has been because they were out there too long. Not tonight.
azzurri63
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Ya they have but I?d actually like to see how many they have cost us. OT is tough because of all of the open ice but the 2 of them need to be smarter. I think when the puck went down the ice they probably should have went off. I read elsewhere that in OT with the two of them in the past it was a win for the most part but this year it?s not the case. Anyway good they got a point. Hopefully the D plays tomorrow and Jones plays well going to be a tough one.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Exactly.
Shame on Marner for playing about 2:46 with one break to set up for OT and running out of gas.
Matthews played about 30 seconds more than Marner. Bag skate them before the Rangers game!!!
Shades of Nylander falling down in that recent OT against Boston - playing 4.5 mins - most of the last minutes of the game plus OT. I allowed that maybe Nylander didn't get off the ice when he should have. But the decision for this OT is all on Keefe/the coaching.
If Keefe is going to run these guys for 2+ mins to tie up the game, maybe someone else should take a shift to start OT. Tavares, Nylander, Jarnkrok & Rielly also played the last 2+ mins of the game. He had McCabe playing instead of Rielly. Robertson, Bertuzzi, Domi or Gregor were pretty fresh.
herman
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cw said:
Ah you see the problem there is (aside from the tired Rielly) none of them can handle the puck under contention without short support and short support in OT space is just losing with more effort. Knies with a speedy centre could work, but the only options left are stone-hands or stone-head.
In any case, the Leafs coaching staff don't really take the OT/SO frame that seriously, especially after banking points earlier and with a B2B coming up.
