bustaheims
Active member
TimKerr said:
Pearce generally gets on base at a reasonable rate, so I'm not super concerned about him. Carrera as an every day player and the team not really having a 4th outfielder on the roster, on the other hand . . .
Jays Roster Discussion
- Thread starter Deebo
- Start date
Pearce generally gets on base at a reasonable rate, so I'm not super concerned about him. Carrera as an every day player and the team not really having a 4th outfielder on the roster, on the other hand . . .
Captain Canuck
New member
Jays claimed INF Ty Kelly off waivers from the N.Y. Mets.
More AAA depth or are the Jays looking to move one of their middle infielders to help plug other roster needs? I still think Goins could be trade bait in the eyes of the current management group.
More AAA depth or are the Jays looking to move one of their middle infielders to help plug other roster needs? I still think Goins could be trade bait in the eyes of the current management group.
Captain Canuck
New member
Deebo said:
He has some value, just not quite enough for the Jays liking. They could be trying to raise it some, which is why you saw Goins get the start at third tonight rather than Barney.
Lots of rumblings about Goins being dealt in the last couple weeks prior to Upton getting released when the Jays were trying to finalize the roster.
This report from Baseball Prospectus clears that situation up:
The Blue Jays were listening to trade offers on both Upton and Goins recently, trying to gauge the market for the two players they needed to choose from for the last roster spot. While the market for Upton was non-existent, the market for Goins was actually pretty decent, with multiple teams making offers for the 29-year-old utility man. One American League team was even intent on trading for Goins and giving him a short term starting role before settling him into their utility role once their club returned to health. However, despite multiple names being tossed around, the two clubs were not able to come to agreement that the Blue Jays liked. So, the Blue Jays decided to release Melvin Upton, and hold on to Goins, knowing that a lot of teams won?t even want to pick up Upton for the remainder of his 2017 contract, and there is a good chance that he re-signs with the club and heads to the minors. For Goins on the other hand, the interest in him is still viable, and even though he secured his spot on the Blue Jays opening day roster, he may still be traded.
Captain Canuck
New member
Joe S. said:
It is starting to remind me of the 2014 Jays where I went with the "Don't get fooled again" mantra and was generally jaded and disillusioned that entire season. The Jays went out and made the Dickey and Buehrle trades, got the fan base super excited and then fell on their faces the 2013 season. Then all they do in the 2013 off-season is sign Dioner Navarro and they are supposed to be a better team in 2014? Yeah I wasn't buying that b.s. one bit!
I can decide for myself whether the team is any good from one season to the next, don't need the Mike Wilners of the world sugar-coating everything and smugly telling me I'm a bad Jays fan for not blindly being in love with everything they do. Real Jays fans aren't afraid to just tell it like it is, good, bad, or ugly.
herman
Well-known member
Apparently something interesting happened at yesterday's game?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGItj76LWzk[/youtube]
Video is poorly edited, but eventually it shows what happened.
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/04/24/marcus-stroman-was-called-for-an-illegal-quick-pitch-for-some-reason/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGItj76LWzk[/youtube]
Video is poorly edited, but eventually it shows what happened.
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/04/24/marcus-stroman-was-called-for-an-illegal-quick-pitch-for-some-reason/
Captain Canuck
New member
Russell Martin starting at 3B tonight, talk about desperation!
Captain Canuck
New member
Coghlan diving over Molina was a sick play! Never seen that before in a MLB game, looks like something out of a movie.
That pinch-hit double by Stroman was pretty special too, first pinch-hit by an AL pitcher since 1972! Then to score the winning run was icing on the cake, Marcus didn't want to take that batting helmet off.
Full credit to Russ playing 3B as well, did a good job over there tonight.
Not happy about the 3 blown leads by 3 of our better pitchers, but won't dwell on that tonight as the Jays got the win and it was a fun game to watch as a fan.
That pinch-hit double by Stroman was pretty special too, first pinch-hit by an AL pitcher since 1972! Then to score the winning run was icing on the cake, Marcus didn't want to take that batting helmet off.
Full credit to Russ playing 3B as well, did a good job over there tonight.
Not happy about the 3 blown leads by 3 of our better pitchers, but won't dwell on that tonight as the Jays got the win and it was a fun game to watch as a fan.
hockeyfan1
New member
What's ailing Bautista? Not in the health sense, but in the overall performance so far this year. Jose just can't seem to get it right. Analytics attempts to solve the mystery:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/jonah-keri-applied-analytics-whats-behind-bautistas-struggles/
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/jonah-keri-applied-analytics-whats-behind-bautistas-struggles/
Captain Canuck
New member
Another one I wonder about is Osuna. Are the neck and back problems really better now? I saw some pundits project him to lead the league in saves this year. Currently he has 1 save and 3 blown saves, that is hot garbage coming from a guy who was lights out the last 2 seasons.
As for Bautista no question he is stinking it up with the bat and his range in the outfield looks to have decreased. On the other hand his outfield arm actually looks better to me than last year, but I attribute that to him injuring it against Baltimore last April on the Delmon Young angry throw. Stupid play that affected his arm the rest of the year in my opinion.
The way his contract is structured I can't see him being in Toronto past this year and the way things are going it wouldn't shock me to see him dealt at the trade deadline along with Estrada and/or Liriano.
As for Bautista no question he is stinking it up with the bat and his range in the outfield looks to have decreased. On the other hand his outfield arm actually looks better to me than last year, but I attribute that to him injuring it against Baltimore last April on the Delmon Young angry throw. Stupid play that affected his arm the rest of the year in my opinion.
The way his contract is structured I can't see him being in Toronto past this year and the way things are going it wouldn't shock me to see him dealt at the trade deadline along with Estrada and/or Liriano.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
Active member
Did Osuna expect a bigger role this season or was he cemented as the closer?
Captain Canuck
New member
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I believe he was cemented as the closer after the numbers he put up the last 2 seasons. He really hasn't had any competition for the closer role since Miguel Castro was traded in the Tulo deal. Never got the sense from anyone that he would be put in a position like Sanchez was to transition from the pen to the rotation.
Who knows what the future holds in terms of openings in the rotation though with Estrada and Liriano in the last year of their deals.
Captain Canuck
New member
Jarrod Saltalamacchia has been DFA'd after a terrible showing both at the plate and behind it. Salty made Josh Thole look like an All-Star by comparison.
Luke Maile has been called up and will be the Jays new back-up catcher.
Luke Maile has been called up and will be the Jays new back-up catcher.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
Active member
Thanks for the clarification lads.