Komisarek on waivers
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bustaheims
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Derk said:
What other contracts do the Leafs have that are likely to look like albatrosses between now and the end of next season? There's no one else I see as likely to be bought out this summer, and, as things stand right now, they only have 5 guys who aren't on ELCs signed past next season - 2 of which aren't likely going any where (JvR and Lupul) and 1 is small enough that it comes off the cap if the player is in playing in another league (Holzer). So, outside of the unlikely even that the team decides they really need to buyout Grabovski and Liles as well . . .
Heroic Shrimp
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Zee said:
The key is to trade him half-way through his 360.
Frank E said:
Injuries could have got him back into the lineup or if the team faltered. I don't fault him for waiting it out in such a short season. But along came a healthy Gardiner and he slipped to 9th in the dman depth chart.
He had to know that he's a candidate for a compliance buyout. Even if he was slightly better than some of the others who have been playing ahead of him, his contract was in his way as evaluating the others made more sense because they're the better-bank-for-the-cap-buck future he isn't. When injuries and dmen faltering didn't open up a spot, he's left with getting some playing time anywhere if he wants to have his career last beyond this year.
leafplasma
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Nik said:
Yes and in my post I said and to extrapolate a bit he is a proud hockey player who with jaded eyes thinks somebody may pluck him off waivers. You and I both know that this isn't going to happen. I really think he thinks somebody may take him and if not he is running the risk of playing for the Marlies. So if it comes down to it most guys would sit tight and not want to play a couple dozen or some games riding a bus on the farm. Thats good of him to do that when legally he didn't have too. Whatever, I think it is noble of him to waive his NMC and he always had a limited NTC as I am sure you know as well. So what is your take on it Nik, you think he is a bad person and is just as classless as he is a bad defenseman? You know I bet he even hates kids and is likely a lousy tipper.
bustaheims said:
I was somehow hoping they could get through this offseason without a buyout. Then Komi is off the books completely and they have two opportunities to remove longer contracts that might not be working out. Grabo might be an example of this if he finishes this season poorly and has a similar season next year (whether because his play has declined or he is being used ineffectively by Carlyle).
Leafs have decisions on a lot of RFAs and UFAs this year, but next year it is the biggies that come off the books. That's when the buyouts may help the most. All I am saying is if they can, I would like to see them keep their options open.
And maybe after next season the cap goes up again - I remember reading that this season's revenues were going to be up again (2.4 billion or something for the shortened season).
Champ Kind
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Heroic Shrimp said:
I've calculated the precise angle at which he should be traded: 124.7'
Corn Flake
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$5 says Edmonton picks him up. I really think they will.
They have $20 mil in cap space for next year and have 3 of their current d-men likely gone as UFA's. For them to sign anyone of substance this summer they need to horribly overpay, so why not take on Komi who is already horribly overpaid?!?! Win win!
They have $20 mil in cap space for next year and have 3 of their current d-men likely gone as UFA's. For them to sign anyone of substance this summer they need to horribly overpay, so why not take on Komi who is already horribly overpaid?!?! Win win!
Champ Kind
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Corn Flake said:
For poops and giggles: Ryan Whitney for Mike Komisarek. Would you have made that deal?
Corn Flake
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Champ Kind said:
Sure why not. Saves the Leafs having to pay Komi on the compliance buyout next year if nothing else.
pnjunction
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bustaheims said:
The only other contracts I can think of that we would look at buying out are Liles and Grabovski's. JVR and Lupul are the only other contracts past next year but I think we are pretty happy with them.
I think there are two allowed correct? Liles seems the most likely to get one if we can't trade him, the only question after that is whether you really think they'd pull the trigger on Grabovski. I suppose it's possible that after next year we could want out of the last 3 years of that deal, but I think he is a tradable player (especially with a dash of salary retention) unless he really starts falling apart.
leafplasma
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Deebo said:
I was under the impression teams had until the beginning of this current season which was a short window and just next offseason to use up their 2 compliance buyouts. The one for this season had to be used before the teams season openers and was the one that Montreal exercised with Gomez and the Rangers with Redden. The one for this season was decided on after to allow for these guys to actually maybe catch on with another team. The cap hit still hit the team for this season but would be removed for next season. This leads up to next season where the cap rolls back, trying to figure what the point would be of it extending to the offseason after this coming one. I could be wrong but I am pretty certain these buyouts must be used only during the next offseason???
leafplasma said:
Nope, it's two over the next two offseasons. The league allowed for an accelerated compliance buyout before the season opener because it became clear that New York and Montreal were just going to force Redden and Gomez to sit at home all season in fear that they may become injured. The catch for those buyouts were that the teams had to take the full caphit for this season, but not in any others.
leafplasma
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Corn Flake said:
I dunno CF, don't you think this would have been explored. If there were trade talks I am sure Edm was asking for Toronto to pay some of Komi salary and of course Toronto would buck at that because it would be in there best interests to buy him out as traded salary would have resulted in a cap hit for next year. If Edm really had interest in Komi at full salary they would have offered up a 7th pick or a nothing prospect I am sure because they had no idea that Komi was going to wave his NMC so that they could get him for nothing through waivers. I just can't see him getting taken.
leafplasma
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CarltonTheBear said:
Cool, thought it was just next summer. Now does the one for the following summer allow you to buyout a player signed to a UFA this coming summer or is it for only players with their current club when the CBA was signed. IE: The Leafs sign player A this summer to a 4 year contract and he is horrible next season or say even the following season the Leafs sign player B and need the cap room and would like to buy out player A. Can the Leafs buy him out the following season.
Kin
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leafplasma said:
Yes, because the only two possible positions are the TWO EXTREMES! BLAST THE X! MOUNTAIN DEW!
He made a decision that, ultimately, is in his best interests professionally. It doesn't do him any good to be sitting in the press box and if he stays there then by the time he gets bought out this summer he'll have gone almost a full year with only a handful of competitive hockey games under his belt. Playing, just to keep in shape and game ready, is better than not playing. Going down to the Marlies doesn't really do anything for the Leafs, it takes a couple hundred thousand off their cap hit when they don't need space and might help the team a little but also exposes them to the possibility that he could get injured and then have the right to refuse a buyout. That doesn't seem to be much of a risk but then again, those aren't really much in the way of benefits either.
So it's a decision that's probably the best for him and probably the best for the team if it's borne out of a growing frustration. That doesn't make him good or bad.