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Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

cabber24 said:
herman said:
Along these lines, how does playoff revenue feed back into the league revenue? Because the Leafs going deep into the playoffs is $$$$$...
3 home games for the second round: $350 average per seat x 17,000 seats x 3 games = $17,850,000 moves the cap needle $287,903.23 (17.85M x 0.5 / 31). That's just tickets sales for round two.

Don't forget the Leafs would be replacing another team in this scenario.  Depends on the city, but I'd bet most teams still have an average ticket above $150 by the 2nd round.  A city like Boston (say we beat them out in the 1st round) probably has a $250 avg ticket for the 2nd round. 
 
cabber24 said:
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/12/15/h-is-for-hockey-related-revenues/

This is great article regarding team finances. Since teams are privately held the financials are not readily available. Thankfully Forbes was able to do an estimation that calculated a total revenue close to the number Bettman stated therefore the Forbes data provides some reliable insight.

Read the article. It's clear the Leafs contribution is substantial according to the cumulative operating income chart.

As indicated in the article small market teams can't afford the floor. The profitable teams vs the non-profitable gap is to big to maintain current CBA conditions. I think the goal of parity and profitability (for everyone) will have to include either the players taking less percentage of hockey related revenues or the introduction of a soft cap/luxury tax system.

A hard cap system is complete BS anyway, as it ignores the fact that no matter what, you will have teams that are going to perform better or worse financially.

Sharing the revenue 50/50 is ok.  The big thing missing is the ability to buy, sell or trade cap space.  There was about $110 million in unused cap space at the end of last season.  If you gave the richer teams the ability to acquire that cap space for cash or picks or players, it would do a lot to help out the smaller market teams.   
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
cabber24 said:
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/12/15/h-is-for-hockey-related-revenues/

This is great article regarding team finances. Since teams are privately held the financials are not readily available. Thankfully Forbes was able to do an estimation that calculated a total revenue close to the number Bettman stated therefore the Forbes data provides some reliable insight.

Read the article. It's clear the Leafs contribution is substantial according to the cumulative operating income chart.

As indicated in the article small market teams can't afford the floor. The profitable teams vs the non-profitable gap is to big to maintain current CBA conditions. I think the goal of parity and profitability (for everyone) will have to include either the players taking less percentage of hockey related revenues or the introduction of a soft cap/luxury tax system.

A hard cap system is complete BS anyway, as it ignores the fact that no matter what, you will have teams that are going to perform better or worse financially.

Sharing the revenue 50/50 is ok.  The big thing missing is the ability to buy, sell or trade cap space.  There was about $110 million in unused cap space at the end of last season.  If you gave the richer teams the ability to acquire that cap space for cash or picks or players, it would do a lot to help out the smaller market teams. 
Yup, the balance between parity and profitability for all probably doesn't exist. If the Leafs want to spend, I think we will be able to flex our financial muscle post CBA negotiations.
 
https://twitter.com/leafspr/status/1017107291701563392

These two are former AGMs (Canes and Wild)
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/8y1x1i/comment/e27esi5

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/7/11/17533964/rick-olczyk-and-blair-mackasey-hired-as-pro-scouts-by-the-toronto-maple-leafs

Rick Olczyk also did a stint as Edmonton's cap guy, with a similar profile to Laurence Gilman.
 
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/7/24/17609880/former-toronto-maple-leafs-scout-lindsay-hofford-now-agm-in-arizona-coyotes

A Mark Hunter man, now an AGM in Arizona.
 
A couple promotions and a new minor (but in a way significant) hire to the nerd squad detailed here:

https://twitter.com/kerdy19/status/1021878150748237824
 
https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1022171334149689344

New scout:
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Edit:
Who took my jouque?
https://twitter.com/oak_leafs/status/1022174010292019200
 
Roque is being poached from the Greyhounds, where he was originally hired by Dubas back in 2011. He spent 5 years with Kingston as a scout prior to that.

Grigori Shafigulin is a 33-year old, recently retired KHL journeyman. He was a 3rd round pick of the Preds in 2003 but never came over to North America. It seems like this will be his first gig as a scout, wonder what brought him to the Leafs specifically.

Olegs Koreskovs has an interested linkedin account. He also has some playing experience. He has some scouting experience. He has some coaching experience. He's also worked with Iceberg Sports Analytics for the past year. I've never heard of them but they're an analytics company based out of Toronto.
 
herman said:
Edit:
Who took my jouque?
https://twitter.com/oak_leafs/status/1022174010292019200

Your timeline stands herman.  I think you should have recourse here. 

You authored that joke, and you were obviously ripped off.

Call your lawyer. 
 
https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1025096624643563520

Lots of internal movement in the scouting department. Next draft will be more Dubas-y than this past one, which is built off of Lou/Hunter data.
 
Now out of the cone of silence around the Leafs front office, Lindsay Hofford spoke to Craig Custance about longtime boss Mark Hunter and why he's taking his time getting his next job lined up:

https://theathletic.com/452973/2018/07/31/custance-what-a-team-would-get-in-mark-hunter-and-why-its-taking-time-to-happen/
Hofford believes that time will reflect well on the Hunter era in Toronto.

?Don?t ignore the obvious. (Kyle Dubas) was hired before Mark. He was the heir apparent. I don?t think it was any indication of how either of those guys were. It was predetermined, for the most part,? he said. ?We came to the organization and saw what kind of shape it was in. When we left, it was on the verge of winning the Stanley Cup. There were some pivotal players on the roster. If it wasn?t for Mark, they wouldn?t be there and they?ll be main players moving forward.?

So that first part is probably true, but really sounds like Hunter-homerism. That middle part... okay maybe now. That last part... I think that's really only applicable to Marner. Matthews and Liljegren are no-brainer picks. The other guys... *shrug* I like some of them? But I don't see any main guys other than Dermott.
 
herman said:
Now out of the cone of silence around the Leafs front office, Lindsay Hofford spoke to Craig Custance about longtime boss Mark Hunter and why he's taking his time getting his next job lined up:

https://theathletic.com/452973/2018/07/31/custance-what-a-team-would-get-in-mark-hunter-and-why-its-taking-time-to-happen/
Hofford believes that time will reflect well on the Hunter era in Toronto.

?Don?t ignore the obvious. (Kyle Dubas) was hired before Mark. He was the heir apparent. I don?t think it was any indication of how either of those guys were. It was predetermined, for the most part,? he said. ?We came to the organization and saw what kind of shape it was in. When we left, it was on the verge of winning the Stanley Cup. There were some pivotal players on the roster. If it wasn?t for Mark, they wouldn?t be there and they?ll be main players moving forward.?

So that first part is probably true, but really sounds like Hunter-homerism. That middle part... okay maybe now. That last part... I think that's really only applicable to Marner. Matthews and Liljegren are no-brainer picks. The other guys... *shrug* I like some of them? But I don't see any main guys other than Dermott.

Wait a minute.  Is he saying the Leafs were on the verge of winning a Cup?
 
I really don't see Liljegren as being a no-brainer pick. A lot of teams took a look at his medicals and season and passed. Whether or not he turns out is yet to be seen but making that call was a legit risk.
 
I don't mean to sound negative here, but I think too much of the Leafs' press over the past few years has been a little too flattering of management.

Nylander was a pick of Nonis, as was Johnsson.  They had practically nothing to do with Johnsson's development, as he spent most of his development years over in Sweden.

In 2015, they picked Marner, and that looks to be a great pick, but he was ranked to go there.  Dermott looks promising, but again, he was picked 34th overall, so it's not like they were reaching there either.  Other than that, not much there from 2015.

In 2016, they won the lottery, so...  Kadri re-signed and blew the doors of his previous numbers.  I'll hand some credit to the coaching staff there.  But you had a 7th overall pick in Nylander getting into the lineup along with a 4th overall pick, and a first overall pick.  They managed to get into the playoffs, but were out in the first round.

The 2017-18 season had mostly carry-overs in terms of productive players, but they also added UFA Marleau.  No members of the 2017 draft, save maybe Liljegren, really appreciated in value over the past season.  They had a stronger regular season, but were disposed of in the first round, again.

So I'm not really sure how Hunter left the Leafs on the verge of a Stanley Cup, or who the pivotal players on the roster that we should attribute to his expertise are and should be so thankful to watch.
 
Frank E said:
I don't mean to sound negative here, but I think too much of the Leafs' press over the past few years has been a little too flattering of management.

Nylander was a pick of Nonis, as was Johnsson.  They had practically nothing to do with Johnsson's development, as he spent most of his development years over in Sweden.

In 2015, they picked Marner, and that looks to be a great pick, but he was ranked to go there.  Dermott looks promising, but again, he was picked 34th overall, so it's not like they were reaching there either.  Other than that, not much there from 2015.

In 2016, they won the lottery, so...  Kadri re-signed and blew the doors of his previous numbers.  I'll hand some credit to the coaching staff there.  But you had a 7th overall pick in Nylander getting into the lineup along with a 4th overall pick, and a first overall pick.  They managed to get into the playoffs, but were out in the first round.

The 2017-18 season had mostly carry-overs in terms of productive players, but they also added UFA Marleau.  No members of the 2017 draft, save maybe Liljegren, really appreciated in value over the past season.  They had a stronger regular season, but were disposed of in the first round, again.

So I'm not really sure how Hunter left the Leafs on the verge of a Stanley Cup, or who the pivotal players on the roster that we should attribute to his expertise are and should be so thankful to watch.

I was questioning that quote in another thread. On the verge of a Stanley Cup?  Ridiculous
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Frank E said:
I don't mean to sound negative here, but I think too much of the Leafs' press over the past few years has been a little too flattering of management.

Nylander was a pick of Nonis, as was Johnsson.  They had practically nothing to do with Johnsson's development, as he spent most of his development years over in Sweden.

In 2015, they picked Marner, and that looks to be a great pick, but he was ranked to go there.  Dermott looks promising, but again, he was picked 34th overall, so it's not like they were reaching there either.  Other than that, not much there from 2015.

In 2016, they won the lottery, so...  Kadri re-signed and blew the doors of his previous numbers.  I'll hand some credit to the coaching staff there.  But you had a 7th overall pick in Nylander getting into the lineup along with a 4th overall pick, and a first overall pick.  They managed to get into the playoffs, but were out in the first round.

The 2017-18 season had mostly carry-overs in terms of productive players, but they also added UFA Marleau.  No members of the 2017 draft, save maybe Liljegren, really appreciated in value over the past season.  They had a stronger regular season, but were disposed of in the first round, again.

So I'm not really sure how Hunter left the Leafs on the verge of a Stanley Cup, or who the pivotal players on the roster that we should attribute to his expertise are and should be so thankful to watch.

I was questioning that quote in another thread. On the verge of a Stanley Cup?  Ridiculous

I think saying any team being on the "verge" of a Stanley Cup is a hyperbole red flag.
 
Frycer14 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Frank E said:
I don't mean to sound negative here, but I think too much of the Leafs' press over the past few years has been a little too flattering of management.

Nylander was a pick of Nonis, as was Johnsson.  They had practically nothing to do with Johnsson's development, as he spent most of his development years over in Sweden.

In 2015, they picked Marner, and that looks to be a great pick, but he was ranked to go there.  Dermott looks promising, but again, he was picked 34th overall, so it's not like they were reaching there either.  Other than that, not much there from 2015.

In 2016, they won the lottery, so...  Kadri re-signed and blew the doors of his previous numbers.  I'll hand some credit to the coaching staff there.  But you had a 7th overall pick in Nylander getting into the lineup along with a 4th overall pick, and a first overall pick.  They managed to get into the playoffs, but were out in the first round.

The 2017-18 season had mostly carry-overs in terms of productive players, but they also added UFA Marleau.  No members of the 2017 draft, save maybe Liljegren, really appreciated in value over the past season.  They had a stronger regular season, but were disposed of in the first round, again.

So I'm not really sure how Hunter left the Leafs on the verge of a Stanley Cup, or who the pivotal players on the roster that we should attribute to his expertise are and should be so thankful to watch.

I was questioning that quote in another thread. On the verge of a Stanley Cup?  Ridiculous

I think saying any team being on the "verge" of a Stanley Cup is a hyperbole red flag.
Winning the Cup is the hardest championship to win in pro sports.  In saying that name another team with more firepower than the Leafs this coming year?
 

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