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Leafs acquire Steckel from NJ

Bender said:
Brian Glennie said:
Potvin29 said:
Brian Glennie said:
Burke the bottom-feeder. Why do all his deals hinge on him somehow outsmarting a rival GM?

I prefer the GM whose deals hinge on being outsmarted by the rival GM.

I'm still waiting for the deal Burke wins, thats all.

Oh boy....

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Brian Glennie said:
Potvin29 said:
Brian Glennie said:
Burke the bottom-feeder. Why do all his deals hinge on him somehow outsmarting a rival GM?

I prefer the GM whose deals hinge on being outsmarted by the rival GM.

I'm still waiting for the deal Burke wins, thats all.

For sure. I miss Brett Lebda too!!  ;):)

There must be a lot of Leafs fans that would love to send Lupul & Gardiner back for Beauchemin too!
 
Propellertop said:
Ah...why did we trade for a larger version of Zigomanis?

Hey, I like Ziggy and all but the knock on him has always been his skating. Steckel is bigger, a better skater, and a bit better on the draw.
 
Brian Glennie said:
Potvin29 said:
Brian Glennie said:
Burke the bottom-feeder. Why do all his deals hinge on him somehow outsmarting a rival GM?

I prefer the GM whose deals hinge on being outsmarted by the rival GM.

I'm still waiting for the deal Burke wins, thats all.

Just so that I understand... is that Brian Burke or Delta Burke you are referring to ?
 
Heard some in the media talking about Leafs giving up another draft pick for a 4th liner (they have to find something to be negative about). I'm really liking what I see from Steckel, not only from the game, but I watch a bunch of YouTube and highlight clips. I was expecting a guy with hands of stone and rather slow, but I found neither to be the case. I was also pleased to see he has some hockey sense as well, just makes easy plays. Only thing I wonder about is consistency, sense I can't understand why other teams would not find him useful to hang on to. Washington I can understand, they are pretty deep, but Jersey?
As for the 4th round pick, the Leafs have a whole slew of depth guys that could fetch that pick back. I'm not worried about it. Look how fast Burke added higher picks last year.
 
slapshot said:
....... I can't understand why other teams would not find him useful to hang on to. Washington I can understand, they are pretty deep, but Jersey?
Jersey wanted Sykora,(almost half the cap hit and term) more...that's all. Lou said Steckel didn't really fit in, and seeing he only played 20 games there, it doesn't mean much to me. It had to be tough on him last year, going from Wash to bottom feeders Jersey.
Teams don't always make moves that make sense player wise...see Lombardi/Franson for Slaney and Lebda....now money wise, the picture is pretty clear.
 
slapshot said:
Heard some in the media talking about Leafs giving up another draft pick for a 4th liner (they have to find something to be negative about). I'm really liking what I see from Steckel, not only from the game, but I watch a bunch of YouTube and highlight clips. I was expecting a guy with hands of stone and rather slow, but I found neither to be the case. I was also pleased to see he has some hockey sense as well, just makes easy plays. Only thing I wonder about is consistency, sense I can't understand why other teams would not find him useful to hang on to. Washington I can understand, they are pretty deep, but Jersey?
As for the 4th round pick, the Leafs have a whole slew of depth guys that could fetch that pick back. I'm not worried about it. Look how fast Burke added higher picks last year.

It's getting sad when media have to try really hard to come up with something to be negative about. This deal is not one of them and last nights performance by Steckel, wasn't one of the things to be negative, nor the deal itself.
 
My only concern after hearing the trade was why Lamorello would trade Steckel.  The Devils look a little thin at Centre, and Lamorello imho is one of the smartest GMs out there who was able to play under and within the new cap structure.  I was hoping Lamorello was not fleecing Burke, but after last night's game, and it was only one game, if Steckel plays like that for most games, it was a great trade by Burke. 
 
Healy had a good point last night: why not use him to take draws on the PP, and then have him make like Andreychuk in front of the net.  Worth trying IMO, since if last night is any indication our PP still has all the structure of a kindergarten recess.
 
I was very puzzled why the Leafs didn't use him on the 5-on-3, particularly when Bozak lost the 1st draw so cleanly. Even if he didn't want Steckel out for the powerplay, their bench was right there. He could have hopped off.
 
Optimus Reimer said:
My only concern after hearing the trade was why Lamorello would trade Steckel.  The Devils look a little thin at Centre, and Lamorello imho is one of the smartest GMs out there who was able to play under and within the new cap structure.

I think it's a money issue, plain and simple. Trading Steckel and signing Sykora saves them a little better than half a million dollars and, for a team that's apparently in a tight financial situation, that's not insignificant.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Healy had a good point last night: why not use him to take draws on the PP, and then have him make like Andreychuk in front of the net.  Worth trying IMO, since if last night is any indication our PP still has all the structure of a kindergarten recess.

I think it's a good suggestion as an option. We don't have many guys who like to go to the net. Steckel doesn't mind it. If you look over his goal scoring, they're nearly all from in close and he's got a decent roofer shot to flick a rebound in.

Wilson talked about having to constantly change up your special teams because teams study what you're doing and adjust to try to take advantage. Quinn used to even use Domi for that because Tie had the balls to get hacked on the doorstep. When the PP is floundering in part because they won't go to the net, I think it's a great thing to try. Steckel has ample size and might be a good guy to bug someone like Chara.

My interest in Caputi was for just that. He could be a 4th liner and put out on the PP because he'll do that job. I'm sure Steckel would give it a go. He did pop 30 goals in one of his AHL seasons so his hands aren't pure stone.
 
My brother is already on the Steckel bandwagon.  He's calling him the "pickup of the summer"
 
cw said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Healy had a good point last night: why not use him to take draws on the PP, and then have him make like Andreychuk in front of the net.  Worth trying IMO, since if last night is any indication our PP still has all the structure of a kindergarten recess.

I think it's a good suggestion as an option. We don't have many guys who like to go to the net. Steckel doesn't mind it. If you look over his goal scoring, they're nearly all from in close and he's got a decent roofer shot to flick a rebound in.

Wilson talked about having to constantly change up your special teams because teams study what you're doing and adjust to try to take advantage. Quinn used to even use Domi for that because Tie had the balls to get hacked on the doorstep. When the PP is floundering in part because they won't go to the net, I think it's a great thing to try. Steckel has ample size and might be a good guy to bug someone like Chara.

My interest in Caputi was for just that. He could be a 4th liner and put out on the PP because he'll do that job. I'm sure Steckel would give it a go. He did pop 30 goals in one of his AHL seasons so his hands aren't pure stone.
I agree with both of you, we need a big body willing to stand in front of the net. Antropov did a bit of it, but certainly not like Andrechuyk did. Even the smallest Habs had more bodies in front of Reimer the other night than the Leafs had in front of Price. If Steckel can win the draws to start of the PP all the better. I'd like to see Kessel, Frattin, Phanuef and Liles with him. Three big shooters, and a set-up guy. Like I mentioned in earlier posts, Steckel doesn't seem to have hands of stone to me, so he may be pretty effective.
 
The PK with no stick where he blocked about 3 shots has just paid back the trade value in one go!
 
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