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Leafs claim Frank Corrado, waive Panik

According to Babcock's comments today (video), Corrado was the victim of unfortunate timing. He was sent to the Marlies to get him going, and when he got back the Leafs started to find success so they weren't willing to mess with the lineup too much. It has nothing to do with the way he has played or demonstrated his play during practice.

I think he'll get another conditioning stint if it doesn't appear too suspicious.
 
For some reason I thought there was a rule preventing repeated conditioning assignments without the player having been injured, but the CBA seems to say it's possible without having to show cause. I wonder if there is a limit, though.

13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.

The bolded part seems to be the only part that hints at them only wanting this to be used to help injury recovery, but it's not specific.

 
Patrick said:
herman said:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/frank-corrado-lou-lamoriello-toronto-maple-leafs-marlies-vancouver-canucks-healthy-scratch/

On why Frankie Corrado remains a healthy scratch all this time, Lou says:
?Right now the most important thing is what can we do here to get this team to play to the best of its abilities. In my opinion, you play exactly who you need to play to have the most success. People have to be ready when they?re given that opportunity to take advantage of it.?

Which is essentially... nothing.

Trying to read between the lines, although Corrado is a more valuable asset than a guy like Polak, the coach thinks having Polak's sandpaper on the bottom pair and PK is going to give them more of a chance to win each night. It doesn't hurt that it probably keeps his trade value at a point where you can get a pick for him towards the deadline.

Also, quite a few rumors on twitter that the Leafs have been quite close to moving Polak already. A few of the teams that have underperformed(Anaheim and Columbus) have apparently kicked the tires on him. How much substance there was to the inquiries, who knows?

I don't think reading between the lines is necessary, Polak is playing Corrado is not, Polak is TO's 5th best d-man, Corrado is TO's 8th, I assume that Marincin and Harrington are above Corrado in the pecking order, Corrado is injury insurance nothing more nothing less.

Polak is a PKing staple, rarely benched like Marincin and Harrington, a constant member of TO's 3rd defensive pairing so I would think he's a better d-man than Corrado.
 
Corrado reveals he played through a separated shoulder for Utica during their playoff run. Then getting the shaft at the start of this season was a bit of a slap in the face.

Toronto was very open with him about getting him back up to playing strength and speed.


http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/02/13/the-provies-the-night-the-earth-shifted-in-vancouver/
 
herman said:
Corrado reveals he played through a separated shoulder for Utica during their playoff run. Then getting the shaft at the start of this season was a bit of a slap in the face.

Toronto was very open with him about getting him back up to playing strength and speed.


http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/02/13/the-provies-the-night-the-earth-shifted-in-vancouver/

Good story.  Just to clarify, he was frustrated by getting the shaft by Vancouver at the start of the season.  Not Toronto.
 
Highlander said:
I like Frankie C even more now and that the Leafs had a plan for him, not a use job like Vancouver laid on him.

The Canucks made a mistake thinking they could waive him in order to send him to Utica.

I think the Leafs sat him in the press box far too long after claiming him on waivers.  I wonder if he'll want to re-sign with us because of this treatment?
 
Al14 said:
Highlander said:
I like Frankie C even more now and that the Leafs had a plan for him, not a use job like Vancouver laid on him.

The Canucks made a mistake thinking they could waive him in order to send him to Utica.

I think the Leafs sat him in the press box far too long after claiming him on waivers.  I wonder if he'll want to re-sign with us because of this treatment?

Have you read the article Highlander is referencing by the comment in his post?

It says clearly that Corrado likes Toronto because they allowed him to heal and get stronger while being fully open in their plan for him and when he'd get to start playing.
 
Al14 said:
Highlander said:
I like Frankie C even more now and that the Leafs had a plan for him, not a use job like Vancouver laid on him.

The Canucks made a mistake thinking they could waive him in order to send him to Utica.

I think the Leafs sat him in the press box far too long after claiming him on waivers.  I wonder if he'll want to re-sign with us because of this treatment?

As his interview outlined, Corrado was rehabbing his shoulder in the offseason and didn't get a chance to put in the amount of training he wanted before Training Camp opened.

When the Leafs picked him up, they outlined what they needed to see from him before they would put him in play; in other words, they gave him an offseason during Oct-Jan to train and get strong enough to play regular minutes. We're seeing Corrado play regularly now, as promised.

I don't think he has any hard feelings about this treatment.
 
herman said:
Al14 said:
Highlander said:
I like Frankie C even more now and that the Leafs had a plan for him, not a use job like Vancouver laid on him.

The Canucks made a mistake thinking they could waive him in order to send him to Utica.

I think the Leafs sat him in the press box far too long after claiming him on waivers.  I wonder if he'll want to re-sign with us because of this treatment?

As his interview outlined, Corrado was rehabbing his shoulder in the offseason and didn't get a chance to put in the amount of training he wanted before Training Camp opened.

When the Leafs picked him up, they outlined what they needed to see from him before they would put him in play; in other words, they gave him an offseason during Oct-Jan to train and get strong enough to play regular minutes. We're seeing Corrado play regularly now, as promised.

I don't think he has any hard feelings about this treatment.

Well, that is good news.  I had no idea he had an injury that needed time to mend after we picked him up.  I wonder why the Canucks didn't just put him on injury reserve instead of losing him on waivers?  Seems strange to me.  For that matter, why didn't our Leafs put him on injury reserve too?  It would have prevented a lot of 2nd guessing as to why he was in the press box so long.
 
Al14 said:
herman said:
Al14 said:
Highlander said:
I like Frankie C even more now and that the Leafs had a plan for him, not a use job like Vancouver laid on him.

The Canucks made a mistake thinking they could waive him in order to send him to Utica.

I think the Leafs sat him in the press box far too long after claiming him on waivers.  I wonder if he'll want to re-sign with us because of this treatment?

As his interview outlined, Corrado was rehabbing his shoulder in the offseason and didn't get a chance to put in the amount of training he wanted before Training Camp opened.

When the Leafs picked him up, they outlined what they needed to see from him before they would put him in play; in other words, they gave him an offseason during Oct-Jan to train and get strong enough to play regular minutes. We're seeing Corrado play regularly now, as promised.

I don't think he has any hard feelings about this treatment.

Well, that is good news.  I had no idea he had an injury that needed time to mend after we picked him up.  I wonder why the Canucks didn't just put him on injury reserve instead of losing him on waivers?  Seems strange to me.  For that matter, why didn't our Leafs put him on injury reserve too?  It would have prevented a lot of 2nd guessing as to why he was in the press box so long.

He had healed over the summer, so he wasn't technically injured, but he didn't have the chance to get into game shape.
 
Bullfrog said:
Am I the only one that found that article almost impossible to read?

I wanted to summarize and quote it for everyone when I shared the link, but I was on my phone and it wouldn't let me copy/paste. So for everyone who doesn't want to slog through the 'blog', I've blockquoted Corrado's remarks.

By now, you?ve seen, or haven?t, Corrado?s comments about his Vancouver experience, comments which suggested that he didn?t think he was treated very fairly by the current Canucks management team and their coaching staff.

Q: Did you get a fair shake here?

Corrado:
?That is a tough one.

?If I look at my whole time here, coming in and playing the (2013) playoffs, injuries made that happen, but I earned that chance.

?In (2014), another coaching change and another fresh start. That was another year where maybe (I was) a little slow out of the gate. But do really well in the American League and get called up a bunch of times, and not play, which was really frustrating.

?Then, have a great playoffs with Utica. Do what you?re told to do. Have a good playoff run, it will be good experience.

?Battle through injuries. Freeze your bones. Play through separated shoulders. Finish playing June 15. Come to training camp, and all of a sudden ?You?re not ready.?

?It was really frustrating. That?s the way I see it."

Now, when he was done, we shared one of those ?oh shit, this changes things? looks you get sometimes.

In his answer there was a revelation that?s a bit of a game changer, in the way the story has been told to this point.

And that would be the comment ?separated shoulder.?

To this point, no one knew that Corrado suffered a separated shoulder during the playoffs and played through it. It depends on degree, but generally it?s a 3-5 week rehab for NHL players before they can play again.

Q: Did that impact you for weeks?

Corrado:
Months.

?It happened in the first round. It was Game 3 against Chicago. At home. I separated my shoulder. I played the rest of the playoffs with it.

?It?s one of those things that take a long time to heal. Throughout the summer, especially when you have a late summer like that, there wasn?t much I could do.

?I had to let it heal. When it got time where I could really push it, it was basically training camp.?

Corrado missed five games during the playoffs. Missing those games was not because of the separated shoulder.

In fact, in Round 2, Corrado broke his hand. The five games he missed were spent icing it.

So, he just played through a broken hand and a separated shoulder and was given up on by a team who concluded he had a poor training camp even though he couldn?t work out in the summer?

That?s some story, and it changes the complexion of what went down.

It also was a reason Corrado didn?t play much with the Leafs when he arrived.

?It was easier in (Toronto) because there was a plan. I knew they had a plan for me.

?They had a picture of when they wanted me to play.

?Knowing that there was a group who had a plan for me, made things easier.

?They talked to me, let me know.

??Keep getting stronger,? they said.

?The time off, I got a lot of time to work out and that helped because I missed the time in the summer.?
 
I've separated each of my shoulders so I know how painful it can be but I don't entirely get the "couldn't work out at all" thing though. The way I understand it is there are three grades of shoulder separation. The first grade is the least serious and the third is the one where they'll repair it surgically. I had one of each.

When it had to be repaired surgically it did keep me on the shelf for quite a while. The less serious version hurt and required a lot of rehab but I could still, you know, run.
 

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