Leafs @ Jets - Mar. 31st, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590

[ZBBM]

If JC can stay healthy, and keep playing the way he has, I don't care if Freddy ever comes back

"Give me some peanuts and Campbell, Jack
I don't care if Fred ever comes back"

Nice! 

 

[Arn]

I recorded this one and watched first thing this morning without knowing the result. It isn't quite the same but sadly I'm getting old and can't cope quite as well with the late nights during the week now ;D Also means I can skip through all the period break chat

Anyway, my feeling is that the team seems to play more calmly and settled in front of Campbell which then translates to being a bit more able to play their more natural offensive game. That confidence then flows into the teams defensive effort led from the front by the likes of Matthews forecheck.

I like this version of the team.

 

[dekedastardly]

Anyway, my feeling is that the team seems to play more calmly and settled in front of Campbell

I see this too. Honestly, do I have more confidence in Andersen over Hutchinson? Don't know. Hutch was hot garbage last year, but this year, that title goes to Fred.

 

[BrownRolo]

If JC can stay healthy, and keep playing the way he has, I don't care if Freddy ever comes back

He rose early this year! Let's hope he stays around until they get their cup at least.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Anyway, my feeling is that the team seems to play more calmly and settled in front of Campbell

I see this too. Honestly, do I have more confidence in Andersen over Hutchinson? Don't know. Hutch was hot garbage last year, but this year, that title goes to Fred.

Wow. Not much else to say. Just wow.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Anyway, my feeling is that the team seems to play more calmly and settled in front of Campbell

I see this too. Honestly, do I have more confidence in Andersen over Hutchinson? Don't know. Hutch was hot garbage last year, but this year, that title goes to Fred.

Wow. Not much else to say. Just wow.

X2

 

[bustaheims]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

Yeah, I've noticed that, as well. The team is much more defensively sound with Campbell in net - though, I also wonder is part of that is that, in general, they've played better defensively over the past few weeks. I guess we'll see if/when Andersen is ready to come back.

 

[BrownRolo]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

But your Freddy's burner account so your opinion's not exactly bias free, isn't it Mr. Andersen?

 

[L K]

A few years ago I'll buy the argument that the Leafs played loose with Andersen in terms of giving up constant chances, but I really didn't see a whole lot of the Leafs playing overly aggressive with Andersen in net.  Its been far more screen goals and deflections getting by Andersen because he struggles to get around screens.  Campbell seems like a bigger body in the net than Freddy who really crouches down.  I think that puts Campbell in a better position in general to stop some of the things the Leafs struggle to prevent.

I think that has been part of the problem with the Leafs penalty kill.  They do a decent job of keeping shots to the outside but they don't do a great job of giving the goalie clean looks.  Campbell seems better equipped (at least right now) at handling those situations.

Campbell with a .917 SV% on the PK meanwhile Freddy is sitting at .783

 

[Arn]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

I can accept this interpretation. Fully get where you're coming from.

Whatever it is, I like the Leafs team that plays in front of Campbell most of the Leafs teams that exist at the minute. I feel more confident watching.

 

[BrownRolo]

Is not perfect but we can use Moneypucks xGF for the opponents as a comparison.

I'll do the last 5 Leafs games since Andersen has been out. And I'll do the last 5 Andersen played. I won't count the Sensor game where Hutch started and then Andersen came in.

So....Last 5 games

Team/xGF/# of goals allowed by Leafs goalie

Jets/2.38/1
Oil/1.93/3
Oil/1.47/3
Sens/2.77/2
Flames/1.97/0

Leafs record 4-0-1
Two times over, 3 times under

The last 5 games Andersen started:

Flames/1.5/4
Jets/4.69/5
Jets/1.88/3
Jets/2.71/4
Nucks/2.36/4

Leafs record 1-4-0
5 times over

 

[ZBBM]

All these hot takes aside, I think we can all agree that Andersen is totally responsible for our abysmal PP.  What a passenger.

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[Guilt Trip]

All these hot takes aside, I think we can all agree that Andersen is totally responsible for our abysmal PP.  What a passenger.

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Yup...haha

 

[bustaheims]

Is not perfect but we can use Moneypucks xGF for the opponents as a comparison.

I'll do the last 5 Leafs games since Andersen has been out. And I'll do the last 5 Andersen played. I won't count the Sensor game where Hutch started and then Andersen came in.

So....Last 5 games

Team/xGF/# of goals allowed by Leafs goalie

Jets/2.38/1
Oil/1.93/3
Oil/1.47/3
Sens/2.77/2
Flames/1.97/0

Leafs record 4-0-1
Two times over, 3 times under

The last 5 games Andersen started:

Flames/1.5/4
Jets/4.69/5
Jets/1.88/3
Jets/2.71/4
Nucks/2.36/4

Leafs record 1-4-0
5 times over

Avg. xGF for these games:

Campbell: 2.10
Andersen: 2.63

More than a half goal difference in terms of xGF represents a significant difference in terms of limiting scoring chances.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

1 outlier game out of 10 is skewing those averages pretty hard.

 

[L K]

Is not perfect but we can use Moneypucks xGF for the opponents as a comparison.

I'll do the last 5 Leafs games since Andersen has been out. And I'll do the last 5 Andersen played. I won't count the Sensor game where Hutch started and then Andersen came in.

So....Last 5 games

Team/xGF/# of goals allowed by Leafs goalie

Jets/2.38/1
Oil/1.93/3
Oil/1.47/3
Sens/2.77/2
Flames/1.97/0

Leafs record 4-0-1
Two times over, 3 times under

The last 5 games Andersen started:

Flames/1.5/4
Jets/4.69/5
Jets/1.88/3
Jets/2.71/4
Nucks/2.36/4

Leafs record 1-4-0
5 times over

Avg. xGF for these games:

Campbell: 2.10
Andersen: 2.63

More than a half goal difference in terms of xGF represents a significant difference in terms of limiting scoring chances.

That first game against Winnipeg seems like a big aberration there though as in the other 4 games Andersen averages out to 2.11

In March overall the Leafs have an xGA of 2.26 in 13 games.  If you take out that one game against Winnipeg they are 2.11 in the month.

Over the whole season Hutchinson (2.36), Campbell (2.51), Andersen (2.78).  I left out that one Ottawa game where Hutch played 6 minutes and Andersen filled in after as that was the only game where we didn't have the starter go the entire game.

Hutchinson - (JAN = N/A), 3.40, 2.69, 2.4 (FEB = 2.83), 2.28, 1.49, 1.93 (MAR = 1.90)

Campbell - 2.42, 3.87 (JAN = 3.14), 2.70 (FEB = 2.70), 1.97, 2.77, 1.47, 2.38 (MAR = 2.15)

Andersen - 4.15, 3.31, 1.59, 2.53, 2.56, 2.83, 4.37, 3.67 (JAN= 3.13), 1.70, 2.74, 2.98, 2.66, 2.15, 3.81, 2.56, 2.42, (FEB = 2.71), 2.60, 2.36, 2.71, 1.88, 4.09, 1.50 (MAR = 2.52)

Andersen/Campbell - 3.93 (Ottawa split game)

 

[bustaheims]

1 outlier game out of 10 is skewing those averages pretty hard.

That's fair. There's also this, using data from hockey-reference.com:

Campbell is facing, on average, 0.98 even-strength, high-danger chances that results in a shot on net per 60.
Andersen is facing 1.68.

That's a substantial difference.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

Yeah, I've noticed that, as well. The team is much more defensively sound with Campbell in net - though, I also wonder is part of that is that, in general, they've played better defensively over the past few weeks. I guess we'll see if/when Andersen is ready to come back.

I thought the same thing.
This team is definitely playing better defensively.

Though, even in the 2nd period, when the team went from dominating the 1st to giving up all the shots against in the 2nd, none were dangerous. I guess we'll find out if that's a matter of them playing differently in front of Campbell, or an improved overall defensive game.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I'll admit that the team certainly plays differently in front of Campbell than they do in front of Andersen. But I don't think it's how the above posters see it.

I think they play a much more sound defensive game in front of Campbell. What you don't see as many of when Campbell is in net is the 5 alarm scoring chances. I can only remember one from last night. I'm sure I missed one or two, but it was nowhere near the 5 or 6 that they're giving up with Andersen in net.

If anything, I think that the team has an over confidence with Andersen in net and that has led to him having to bail the team out. He did it a couple years ago. He doesn't seem to be able to do it now.

I applaud Campbell for the way he's playing. I have no issues with it. I'm not ready to anoint him the second coming though.

But your Freddy's burner account so your opinion's not exactly bias free, isn't it Mr. Andersen?

Yeah that's it. I'll send you a jersey in the mail