Leafs @ sens - Dec. 7th, 7:00pm - CBC, SN 590

[Kin]

Hey, here's a question that someone might be able to help me out with. In the Boston-Pittsburgh game the Penguins had a shot on net with Rask out of position that Seidenberg saved in the crease. Does that count as a shot on net? If so, how does it get separated from the calculations for save percentage? Or does Rask get credit for the save?

 

[barney_rebel]

We rule man

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[CarltonTheBear]

Hey, here's a question that someone might be able to help me out with. In the Boston-Pittsburgh game the Penguins had a shot on net with Rask out of position that Seidenberg saved in the crease. Does that count as a shot on net? If so, how does it get separated from the calculations for save percentage? Or does Rask get credit for the save?

I would imagine that's a blocked shot for Seidenberg. If you knew when it occurred you can check the play by play log and see if it was a save or a block:

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20132014/PL020438.HTM

 

[bustaheims]

Hey, here's a question that someone might be able to help me out with. In the Boston-Pittsburgh game the Penguins had a shot on net with Rask out of position that Seidenberg saved in the crease. Does that count as a shot on net? If so, how does it get separated from the calculations for save percentage? Or does Rask get credit for the save?

I'm pretty that would go down as a blocked shot.

 

[Kin]

I'm pretty that would go down as a blocked shot.

That seems...imprecise.

 

[mr grieves]

But, duly noted, he's taking more minor penalties than Phil Kessel.

Last season they would've been shorthanded 268 times over 82 games. This season, they're on pace to be shorthanded 314 times. Perhaps one of the reasons the PK isn't doing as well this season is that the PK's getting more work than they did last year. Or that one of their better penalty killers is unavailable to the PK. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm pretty that would go down as a blocked shot.

That seems...imprecise.

How? Say Seidenberg was standing right in front of Rask and blocked the shot, it's a block not a save.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

That "kneeing" example by Crosby Don showed didn't even happen. I slowed it down and the bodies didn't even touch - anywhere. The Bruin went down clutching his knee. Perhaps he twisted it in the play but he was not touched by Crosby.

Edit: I just looked at CTB post and now see that the Pen (#48?) kneed the Bruin in the head. That was bad.

Principle point of contact is the head. Could argue it's an intent to injure play.

A small suspension would make sense, but I'm sure there'll be nothing cause it's Neal.

 

[Stronger Than All]

Clarkson the momentum killer

 

[Kin]

Or that one of their better penalty killers is unavailable to the PK.

Yes, in fact, he's so unavailable to the PK that from being 1st in the league among forwards among SH ice time last year at 3:39 a game, this year he's fallen all the way to 1st among forwards at 4:11 a game.

 

[Kin]

How? Say Seidenberg was standing right in front of Rask and blocked the shot, it's a block not a save.

Because it doesn't seem to be an accurate reflection of what happened.

 

[Kessel Run]

Or that one of their better penalty killers is unavailable to the PK.

Yes, in fact, he's so unavailable to the PK that from being 1st in the league among forwards among SH ice time last year at 3:39 a game, this year he's fallen all the way to 1st among forwards at 4:11 a game.

ONE of the better, not THE BEST.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

How? Say Seidenberg was standing right in front of Rask and blocked the shot, it's a block not a save.

Because it doesn't seem to be an accurate reflection of what happened.

A defenceman blocked a shot on net and got credited with a blocked shot. Not sure what it matters really where the goalie was.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Well, this is one way to practice the PK, keep taking penalties.

 

[Kin]

Or that one of their better penalty killers is unavailable to the PK.

Yes, in fact, he's so unavailable to the PK that from being 1st in the league among forwards among SH ice time last year at 3:39 a game, this year he's fallen all the way to 1st among forwards at 4:11 a game.

ONE of the better, not THE BEST.

I don't understand your point.

 

[drummond]

hopefully Dion is OK, missing him would be terrible blow

 

[Kin]

A defenceman blocked a shot on net and got credited with a blocked shot. Not sure what it matters really where the goalie was.

Because if shots for is an indication of offensive pressure than the determining factor should be what the team does with the puck, not which player on the defending team it hits.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Because if shots for is an indication of offensive pressure than the determining factor should be what the team does with the puck, not which player on the defending team it hits.

That's actually a good point. It's too bad there wasn't some sort of stat that combined shots a goalie saves and shots a team blocks. And maybe even shots a team has that misses the net.

Ah well.

 

[L K]

A defenceman blocked a shot on net and got credited with a blocked shot. Not sure what it matters really where the goalie was.

Because if shots for is an indication of offensive pressure than the determining factor should be what the team does with the puck, not which player on the defending team it hits.

They do keep track of total shot attempts and break it down to missed shots, shots on goal and blocked shots.

 

[WIGWALS_wifey]

What is the crowd chanting?