Line-up changes

[Deebo]

Connolly is now "week to week", that delays a roster move a little bit.

Kadri's immenent return will force a roster move, whether it's Kadri to the Marlies or something else.

 

[Kin]

Where did you lose me?

Probably the point where you're constantly changing your point of view. That doesn't have a lot to do with what I said or what I interpreted cw to have said.

 

[maplesyrup]

Connolly is now "week to week", that delays a roster move a little bit.

Oh good... I'm not pulling it out yet but I've constructing a colossal "told you so" for the collective since about July the second.

 

[Deebo]

Connolly is now "week to week", that delays a roster move a little bit.

Oh good... I'm not pulling it out yet but I've constructing a colossal "told you so" for the collective since about July the second.

I'm pretty sure everyone knew he was an injury risk.

 

[maplesyrup]

Connolly is now "week to week", that delays a roster move a little bit.

Oh good... I'm not pulling it out yet but I've constructing a colossal "told you so" for the collective since about July the second.

I'm pretty sure everyone knew he was an injury risk.

... A risk (unlike most) I objected to taking... I still obviously hope my objection turns out to be wrong.

 

[Erndog]

I already strongly dislike Connolly and he hasn't even played a game for us.

My hatred for Connolly is closing in on Tlusty, Versteeg territory.  Luckily we jettisoned those other 2 pretty quickly.

 

[Kin]

I think this is one of those situations where the team's lack of transparency may be working against their interests. I understand the theoretically protective aim of only classifying an injury as an "upper body" injury but I think they have an interest in telling people if Connolly's legitimately hurt.

 

[Erndog]

I think this is one of those situations where the team's lack of transparency may be working against their interests. I understand the theoretically protective aim of only classifying an injury as an "upper body" injury but I think they have an interest in telling people if Connolly's legitimately hurt.

A tweet today said Burke admits injury is worse then they initially expected.  We know it's his shoulder.  And we know he was skating, passing and shooting but not taking contact.

So I think it's safe to say it's been dinged pretty good but probably no structural damage.

Sad part about shoulders is they can take forever to heal and make a hockey player very hesitant.  I heard all year how Jason Heywards shoulder was bothering him, I imagine this injury to Connolly will plague him all year too.

 

[Kin]

A tweet today said Burke admits injury is worse then they initially expected.  We know it's his shoulder.  And we know he was skating, passing and shooting but not taking contact.

So I think it's safe to say it's been dinged pretty good but probably no structural damage.

But it's what then? A bruise? A sprain?

Like I said, I just think some transparency would serve the club on this one if people are already talking about disliking the guy.

 

[maplesyrup]

Sigh... Half glass full. - LTIR frees up cap space.  :-\

 

[Erndog]

A tweet today said Burke admits injury is worse then they initially expected.  We know it's his shoulder.  And we know he was skating, passing and shooting but not taking contact.

So I think it's safe to say it's been dinged pretty good but probably no structural damage.

But it's what then? A bruise? A sprain?

I agree.

If it's bad enough for him to miss 3-4 weeks while practicing on it, but not bad enough for surgery then what the heck could it be?

I'm going to go with Pierres line of thought (shudder) and some guys have to be 100% to play.  There is a difference between playing with pain and playing injured and Connolly can't play through pain.

 

[Kin]

I agree.

If it's bad enough for him to miss 3-4 weeks while practicing on it, but not bad enough for surgery then what the heck could it be?

Well, the first thing that jumps to mind there is a separated shoulder. That can hurt but there are, if I remember correctly, three grades of shoulder separations and only the most severe requires surgery.

But that's a perfect example of where it'd be smart to tell people what it is.

 

[Redleaf]

I agree.

If it's bad enough for him to miss 3-4 weeks while practicing on it, but not bad enough for surgery then what the heck could it be?

Well, the first thing that jumps to mind there is a separated shoulder. That can hurt but there are, if I remember correctly, three grades of shoulder separations and only the most severe requires surgery.

But that's a perfect example of where it'd be smart to tell people what it is.

Too bad really. Connolly & Franson havent really endeared themselves very well to Leafs nation, and neither one has even stepped on the ice for a regular season game yet. Liles appears to be a good off season pick-up 

 

[Kin]

Too bad really. Connolly & Franson havent really endeared themselves very well to Leafs nation, and neither one has even stepped on the ice for a regular season game yet. Liles appears to be a good off season pick-up 

What's Connolly done though? All we know is that he's hurt. There's speculation about the seriousness of the injury but that's not Connolly's fault. It's not like he decides what we get told.

 

[Redleaf]

Too bad really. Connolly & Franson havent really endeared themselves very well to Leafs nation, and neither one has even stepped on the ice for a regular season game yet. Liles appears to be a good off season pick-up 

What's Connolly done though? All we know is that he's hurt. There's speculation about the seriousness of the injury but that's not Connolly's fault. It's not like he decides what we get told.

Thats just it. What's Franson done for that matter? Complained a bit that he hasnt had a chance to play yet? Hopefully these 2 players will be a big part of this teams success this season, but the vultures are circling already, and they havent even played their 1st game as Leafs. It's all Pretty amusing really. Lets ship them out. They're not Leaf material!

 

[Kin]

Thats just it. What's Franson done for that matter? Complained a bit that he hasnt had a chance to play yet? Hopefully these 2 players will be a big part of this teams success this season, but the vultures are circling already, and they havent even played their 1st game as Leafs. It's all Pretty amusing really.

Fair enough. I agree then. I certainly don't understand being upset with either player.

 

[Tigger]

4th conditional Lupul/Gardiner

There was no draft pick cost for the Leafs on this one. The only thing the Leafs sent to Anaheim was Beauchemin. The conditional pick in this trade is coming to the Leafs as either a 4th round pick or a 6th round pick.

Didn't go deep enough on that one, thanks!

 

[Tigger]

Trades are more or less 50/50 propositions - you give up something to get something. Some you win and some you lose. There's not a real burn in the bunch you've listed there. Burkie looks ahead of the game on the trade front - quite handily. We've discussed each one of these deals to death but when I look at that list, it's not a bad one (though a few of his deals are not on it and the jury is still out on a few of these guys).

Yeah, I only listed info surrounding current roster players, didn't include Colborne or incoming draft picks but on balance I think that list gets better with them, Versteeg etc. even with a few question marks.

 

[rdowdall]

Trades are more or less 50/50 propositions - you give up something to get something. Some you win and some you lose. There's not a real burn in the bunch you've listed there. Burkie looks ahead of the game on the trade front - quite handily. We've discussed each one of these deals to death but when I look at that list, it's not a bad one (though a few of his deals are not on it and the jury is still out on a few of these guys).

Yeah, I only listed info surrounding current roster players, didn't include Colborne or incoming draft picks but on balance I think that list gets better with them, Versteeg etc. even with a few question marks.

Also, I don't think Burke did the Grabo trade.  That was Fletcher.

 

[Tigger]

Trades are more or less 50/50 propositions - you give up something to get something. Some you win and some you lose. There's not a real burn in the bunch you've listed there. Burkie looks ahead of the game on the trade front - quite handily. We've discussed each one of these deals to death but when I look at that list, it's not a bad one (though a few of his deals are not on it and the jury is still out on a few of these guys).

Yeah, I only listed info surrounding current roster players, didn't include Colborne or incoming draft picks but on balance I think that list gets better with them, Versteeg etc. even with a few question marks.

Also, I don't think Burke did the Grabo trade.  That was Fletcher.

That's absolutely correct, the list was just what the current roster cost ( or didn't in the case of ufa's ). Burke re-signed him and Fletcher remains a part of the inner circle, fwiw but I think cw's point stands and it's remarkable to me that Grabbo is the only one from that list that isn't a Burke acquisition.