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Thanks Nik, I always like to be corrected by the Master.
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Nik the Trik said:OldTimeHockey said:I don't get why it's contradictory.
I believe he's stating that offense may hide a bad team for a while and get you some wins but a good defense can carry a team for the entire season. Just me though.
Well, it's contradictory because you win championships by virtue of winning games. So on it's most elemental level it's, if not contradictory, gibberish.
On an actual intellectual level, it still largely is. Teams that win championships tend to be good at both things but there are just as many teams who've won a cup with a so-so defense and great offense as the reverse. People like to forget this now but some of those Devils teams were pretty good at putting the puck in the net.
Frank E said:Is it a full moon today?
Potvin29 said:Ken Daneyko did an article for The Players' Tribune on Lamoriello:
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ken-daneyko-lou-lamoriello-leafs-devils/
Patrick said:Potvin29 said:Ken Daneyko did an article for The Players' Tribune on Lamoriello:
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ken-daneyko-lou-lamoriello-leafs-devils/
I just read that before coming here, phenomenal.
There is going to be pain here the next few years, but I sincerely doubt we will see them out worked the way we have in the past.
I think that's all the fans will really need during this rebuild, a hard-working, honest group of players who leave it all out there each night, the results will come as new blood trickles from the prospect pool.
That's what really turned my stomach last season, the lack of effort and professionalism, if you lose, you lose, but laying down the way this group did last year was inexcusable.
Potvin29 said:Ken Daneyko did an article for The Players' Tribune on Lamoriello:
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ken-daneyko-lou-lamoriello-leafs-devils/
herman said:Patrick said:Potvin29 said:Ken Daneyko did an article for The Players' Tribune on Lamoriello:
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ken-daneyko-lou-lamoriello-leafs-devils/
I just read that before coming here, phenomenal.
There is going to be pain here the next few years, but I sincerely doubt we will see them out worked the way we have in the past.
I think that's all the fans will really need during this rebuild, a hard-working, honest group of players who leave it all out there each night, the results will come as new blood trickles from the prospect pool.
That's what really turned my stomach last season, the lack of effort and professionalism, if you lose, you lose, but laying down the way this group did last year was inexcusable.
I'll still thank them for Marner.
LuncheonMeat said:I'm with you!
All this 'culture change', and 'hard work' stuff is starting to worry me a bit. It's too soon! Lie back down, damn it!! 8)
bustaheims said:LuncheonMeat said:I'm with you!
All this 'culture change', and 'hard work' stuff is starting to worry me a bit. It's too soon! Lie back down, damn it!! 8)
You gotta hire the architects and all that before you tear down your old house to build a new one. That's all that's going on now. The change has started at the top, but, really, there hasn't enough change to the significant parts of the roster to have much of an impact on their overall success. They're still a few seasons from getting up.
RedLeaf said:I have a sinking feeling your wrong. At least the part about them being a down and out, bad team for a few seasons still. I think you may be underestimating the impact of a well organized structured team. Once this squad plays with some discipline, I'm guessing we'll see a noticeable improvement, right off the hop. I think they may even challenge for a playoff spot this year.
bustaheims said:RedLeaf said:I have a sinking feeling your wrong. At least the part about them being a down and out, bad team for a few seasons still. I think you may be underestimating the impact of a well organized structured team. Once this squad plays with some discipline, I'm guessing we'll see a noticeable improvement, right off the hop. I think they may even challenge for a playoff spot this year.
You're dreaming in technicolor. The Leafs have made a substantial downgrade in terms of talent. Their top scoring forward and their top scoring defenceman from last season are gone. They've brought in some quality depth guys, but they're not going to make up for that significant dip in talent. You're really overestimating the impact of structure. Without talent, all that structure is going to is make them a little less of a pushover. They won't get blown out of many games, but they're not going to be a successful team, and they won't be anywhere near the playoffs unless Bernier and Reimer have seasons like Price did.
Bullfrog said:No Kessel means teams will be focusing on shutting down Kardi, Lupul, and JvR.
This is going to be a tough season.