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Luke Schenn Traded to Flyers for JVR!!!

Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre. 
 
Relax!

Having those 5 in the top 6 would be something else. Would be so dangerous.

Kulemin could be a good part of the deal for Ryan.
 
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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We can better that.  We'll give them our #1 center from last season in Bozak.  :P 
Throw in MacArthur and maybe a prospect like Holzer or Blacker and I think we have a makings of a deal.
 
jonlleafs said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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We can better that.  We'll give them our #1 center from last season in Bozak.  :P 
Throw in MacArthur and maybe a prospect like Holzer or Blacker and I think we have a makings of a deal.
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That will most certainly not be happening
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Tigger said:
You're free to disagree but there's no confusion on my part.
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I'm confused.... I mean, we're talking about Bobby Ryan again and in the JVR thread.
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It started innocently enough, as it always does, Zee offered up drinks and, well... ;)
 
jonlleafs said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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We can better that.  We'll give them our #1 center from last season in Bozak.  :P 
Throw in MacArthur and maybe a prospect like Holzer or Blacker and I think we have a makings of a deal.
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I think you just proposed Bozak + MacArthur + Blacker!  The other thread is right!  It's the new AC1! lol.
 
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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I'd have no problem at all giving up Grabbo and a 1st for Ryan. If the Leafs can get Luongo at a decent price than that 1st become a middle to low 1st rounder anyways. This is almost exactly what the Leafs need more of up front: size, skill and versatility.

A top line of..

Lupul-Ryan-Kessel

would be smmmmokin'!
 
Kush said:
jonlleafs said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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We can better that.  We'll give them our #1 center from last season in Bozak.  :P 
Throw in MacArthur and maybe a prospect like Holzer or Blacker and I think we have a makings of a deal.
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That will most certainly not be happening
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Ryan had 31g and 57pts last season.  Bozak scored 18g and 47pts.  Just 10 less.  MacArthur scored 20g and 43pts.  Right there alone these guys more than make up the point production of Ryan.  And then we're giving them a prospect.  How is it not even close?  Sometimes I feel you guys way overvalue other team's players and lessen the value of our players. 

In comparison with Ryan, Kessel got 37g and 82pts and people on here would probably trade Kessel for Ryan straight up or even throw in additional assets for him.  Lupul got 67pts in a shortened 66game season for him.  Ryan played all 82games.  Even Grabovski who started off slow netted 51pts.  We have to be a bit more realistic as far as assessing value.  Granted value is subjectively higher when viewed by the team that possesses the asset by the GM, but breaking it down to production (which we should here since he's a skill guy and not a grinder), the package I offered up could be sweetened further, but is not a million miles away from being realistic.
 
RedLeaf said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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I'd have no problem at all giving up Grabbo and a 1st for Ryan. If the Leafs can get Luongo at a decent price than that 1st become a middle to low 1st rounder anyways. This is almost exactly what the Leafs need more of up front: size, skill and versatility.

A top line of..

Lupul-Ryan-Kessel

would be smmmmokin'!
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Ryan is not a center.  He's a winger and he would probably be on the 2nd line with Lupul and Kessel both outpacing him in points.
 
jonlleafs said:
RedLeaf said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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I'd have no problem at all giving up Grabbo and a 1st for Ryan. If the Leafs can get Luongo at a decent price than that 1st become a middle to low 1st rounder anyways. This is almost exactly what the Leafs need more of up front: size, skill and versatility.

A top line of..

Lupul-Ryan-Kessel

would be smmmmokin'!
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Ryan is not a center.  He's a winger and he would probably be on the 2nd line with Lupul and Kessel both outpacing him in points.
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You mean he didn't play centre for Anaheim. He's listed as a winger or centreman.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4985
 
RedLeaf said:
jonlleafs said:
RedLeaf said:
Sgt said:
Rumour has it Murray wants a #2 centre as a starting point for Ryan. I'm thinking they'd ask for Grabo for starters (I would anyway.) So, what else would we need to throw in? One of our top 3 prospects? I'm not convinced that sort of deal makes sense right now given we're looking for help at centre.
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I'd have no problem at all giving up Grabbo and a 1st for Ryan. If the Leafs can get Luongo at a decent price than that 1st become a middle to low 1st rounder anyways. This is almost exactly what the Leafs need more of up front: size, skill and versatility.

A top line of..

Lupul-Ryan-Kessel

would be smmmmokin'!
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Ryan is not a center.  He's a winger and he would probably be on the 2nd line with Lupul and Kessel both outpacing him in points.
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You mean he didn't play centre for Anaheim. He's listed as a left winger or centreman.
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http://ducks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471676

Says right-wing there.
 
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