Luongo

[Corn Flake]

Wow a lot of Leafs "experts" are doing a glorious job convincing themselves that you can take on Luongo and just assume he will quit/retire in 4-5 years, max 7. 

People, come on. 

Will he *probably* be done at 38-40? Sure. Can he change his mind at 40 and keep going on that contract? He sure as hell can. What can the team who takes him on do about it if he does? Nothing at all.

 

[rdowdall]

Anyone know what the rumoured deal between the Leafs and Canucks has as principles from the Leafs?

You're moving dangerously into Eklund territory now.

It was posted on the front page of this site that there was a rumoured deal that was done.  I was wondering what was involved in this rumoured deal that was done.

 

[lamajama]

Wow a lot of Leafs "experts" are doing a glorious job convincing themselves that you can take on Luongo and just assume he will quit/retire in 4-5 years, max 7. 

People, come on. 

Will he *probably* be done at 38-40? Sure. Can he change his mind at 40 and keep going on that contract? He sure as hell can. What can the team who takes him on do about it if he does? Nothing at all.

I think most consider he's going to leave because of his actual salary. Would he put himself through the rigors of an NHL pre-season/season etc when he's being paid peanuts compared to his previous $$.

 

[Zee]

Anyone know what the rumoured deal between the Leafs and Canucks has as principles from the Leafs?

You're moving dangerously into Eklund territory now.

It was posted on the front page of this site that there was a rumoured deal that was done.  I was wondering what was involved in this rumoured deal that was done.

;D ;D Didn't even realize that, I never go to the front page, I have the forum index bookmarked.

 

[bustaheims]

I think most consider he's going to leave because of his actual salary. Would he put himself through the rigors of an NHL pre-season/season etc when he's being paid peanuts compared to his previous $$.

Because, like a lot of players throughout the history of professional sports, he may have trouble accepting that his time is done and, regardless of the money, he'll want the opportunity to try to prove he's still got it.

 

[rdowdall]

Anyone know what the rumoured deal between the Leafs and Canucks has as principles from the Leafs?

You're moving dangerously into Eklund territory now.

It was posted on the front page of this site that there was a rumoured deal that was done.  I was wondering what was involved in this rumoured deal that was done.

;D ;D Didn't even realize that, I never go to the front page, I have the forum index bookmarked.

Well you should be more careful.  You invoked the name of Eklund in comparison to me.  That really hurts.

 

[rdowdall]

Anyone know what the rumoured deal between the Leafs and Canucks has as principles from the Leafs?

We've heard piles of rumor and speculation but nothing even close to resembling what it really could be.  Just piles of things.

My main concern is that 5th overall pick going to the Canucks.  If that goes as part of a package for Luongo, then I will have reservations about the deal.

 

[Zee]

Anyone know what the rumoured deal between the Leafs and Canucks has as principles from the Leafs?

You're moving dangerously into Eklund territory now.

It was posted on the front page of this site that there was a rumoured deal that was done.  I was wondering what was involved in this rumoured deal that was done.

;D ;D Didn't even realize that, I never go to the front page, I have the forum index bookmarked.

Well you should be more careful.  You invoked the name of Eklund in comparison to me.  That really hurts.

Let's hug it out bro.  :-*

 

[Deebo]

Will he *probably* be done at 38-40? Sure. Can he change his mind at 40 and keep going on that contract? He sure as hell can. What can the team who takes him on do about it if he does? Nothing at all.

I'd be willing to take that risk, I can't see a player the calibre of Luongo sticking around for 3 years at 1 million a year if he can't play at a high level.

And if he can play at a high level, then great, we have a top goalie for 10 years.

 

[Corn Flake]

Wow a lot of Leafs "experts" are doing a glorious job convincing themselves that you can take on Luongo and just assume he will quit/retire in 4-5 years, max 7. 

People, come on. 

Will he *probably* be done at 38-40? Sure. Can he change his mind at 40 and keep going on that contract? He sure as hell can. What can the team who takes him on do about it if he does? Nothing at all.

I think most consider he's going to leave because of his actual salary. Would he put himself through the rigors of an NHL pre-season/season etc when he's being paid peanuts compared to his previous $$.

I get that, but the problem there is that older goaltenders do that very thing all the time.. they just sign new contracts to make it happen vs. continue on a back sliding one.  Sure it's not a motivator but lots of these goalies want to hang on and keep on playing. 

Vokoun just came off a deal that was around $1 mil.  He isn't 40 but he's up there. Cujo came back for a last gasp or two at an uber-cheap rate at 40. Hasek I believe did it as well, and may do it again.  That is only a few examples.

I get he will *probably* retire and *probably* won't play but with a contract in hand you really can't take this unwritten agreement he supposedly has that he won't play as gospel. 

All I'm saying is if you take him on you have to assume it's a possibility you could be stuck with him in those final years and you need to make plans to deal with that if it happens.  Or maybe Burke won't give a care in the end because he knows he's not going to be here in 10 years, so screw it... but I doubt that.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Are we all pro-Luongo yet? No? I'll check back in a couple of weeks.

 

[Deebo]

I think most consider he's going to leave because of his actual salary. Would he put himself through the rigors of an NHL pre-season/season etc when he's being paid peanuts compared to his previous $$.

Because, like a lot of players throughout the history of professional sports, he may have trouble accepting that his time is done and, regardless of the money, he'll want the opportunity to try to prove he's still got it.

That's just as speculative as people who say he will retire, both are viable outcomes.

 

[Zee]

Are we all pro-Luongo yet? No? I'll check back in a couple of weeks.

IF he gets traded to the Leafs, Luongo will be one of those "lightning rod" players, meaning he'll always have a large number of fans for him AND against him.  Sort of like how the Kessel deal is still mulled over to this day and there are people who love it and also the detractors to it.  I guess it all depends on how much the Leafs give up to acquire him.  Even if the package isn't that significant, they'll be fans who complain about his contract, especially if his play suffers when he suits up for the Leafs.

 

[bustaheims]

That's just as speculative as people who say he will retire, both are viable outcomes.

Well, that's kind of the point, though. As a GM acquiring such a contract, you have to realistic about all possibilities, which includes the player attempting to play the entirety of the contract.

 

[bustaheims]

Are we all pro-Luongo yet? No? I'll check back in a couple of weeks.

At best, I'm not against it, though, really, it depends on the acquisition cost more than anything else.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That's just as speculative as people who say he will retire, both are viable outcomes.

Well, that's kind of the point, though. As a GM acquiring such a contract, you have to realistic about all possibilities, which includes the player attempting to play the entirety of the contract.

I always wonder about how many GMs who sign these contracts actually think they'll still be running their team in 8-12 years.

 

[TML fan]

Regardless of his contract, why would we want a guy who one of the top teams thinks isn't good enough to play for them?

Luongo is not the answer.

 

[Deebo]

Regardless of his contract, why would we want a guy who one of the top teams thinks isn't good enough to play for them?

I think there's more to Luongo moving than Vancouver not wanting him.

 

[TML fan]

Regardless of his contract, why would we want a guy who one of the top teams thinks isn't good enough to play for them?

I think there's more to Luongo moving than Vancouver not wanting him.

I think losing his job in the playoffs is a pretty clear indication that they don't want him.

 

[Kin]

Regardless of his contract, why would we want a guy who one of the top teams thinks isn't good enough to play for them?

Because maybe, just maybe, the Vancouver Canucks aren't right about everything? I mean, you know, ignoring the jaw dropping success they've had.