Maple Leafs @ Coyotes - Dec. 29th, 9:00pm - SN, Fan 590
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Guilt Trip
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They still lost easy points. Get over it the Leafs aren't going to have it every game.azzurri63 said:
Guilt Trip
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You def post more when they're losing...biggest whiner here.azzurri63 said:
Guilt Trip
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Whatever gets you through the day whiner boy.azzurri63 said:
BrownRolo
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People come on here to vent. I find the constantly positive people to be just as annoying.
The team looked amazing in the 1st. Was men vs. boys. Then they took their foot off the gas and it was a 50/50 game. Tavares and Matthews look pretty bad. But Tavares is oldish. Matthews needs to do something about his conditioning. He's just lumbering around out there. Has he out on a lot of weight or something? Looks slow and out of shape.
The team looked amazing in the 1st. Was men vs. boys. Then they took their foot off the gas and it was a 50/50 game. Tavares and Matthews look pretty bad. But Tavares is oldish. Matthews needs to do something about his conditioning. He's just lumbering around out there. Has he out on a lot of weight or something? Looks slow and out of shape.
dekedastardly
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BrownRolo said:
Yes.
And those that "whine" about the "whiners"
I couldn't stay awake beyond the end of the 1st. Am happy to see Pontus get rewarded with some PP time, and a beauty goal. He and Timmins are becoming favorites of mine. I really do hope that Holmberg doesn't get dealt some place, I feel like he's only going to get better. As for #34, dunno. Maybe he's been too much of a party boy now that he thinks he's celeb status.
bustaheims
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https://twitter.com/camcharronyvr/status/1608684455287468041
The Yotes just have the Leafs? number. Happens sometimes, regardless of how good either team is. The crappy post lockout Leafs used to do it to Lundqvist and the Rags for years.
The Yotes just have the Leafs? number. Happens sometimes, regardless of how good either team is. The crappy post lockout Leafs used to do it to Lundqvist and the Rags for years.
Guilt Trip
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Life is good Bender. CheersBender said:
L K
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Over those four games the Leafs have lost to Arizona in this calendar year:
28-19 4-2
32-23 5-2
46-18 2-1
38-23 5-4 (OT)
The Leafs have outshot Arizona 144-83 but have been outscored 16-9
It's hard to win when 20% of the shots go in from your opponent. It's not like the Leafs have been getting dummied by them. They have heavily outplayed them for the most part and I think it's more than fair to call out the fact that the officiating has been 8-6 in favour of Arizona. So in games where the leafs are doubling the shots and have heavily been outplaying them Arizona has drawn more powerplays. (Notable that their OT win was by directly holding Matthews and pulling him out of the play).
28-19 4-2
32-23 5-2
46-18 2-1
38-23 5-4 (OT)
The Leafs have outshot Arizona 144-83 but have been outscored 16-9
It's hard to win when 20% of the shots go in from your opponent. It's not like the Leafs have been getting dummied by them. They have heavily outplayed them for the most part and I think it's more than fair to call out the fact that the officiating has been 8-6 in favour of Arizona. So in games where the leafs are doubling the shots and have heavily been outplaying them Arizona has drawn more powerplays. (Notable that their OT win was by directly holding Matthews and pulling him out of the play).
Frank E
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They've had a bit of a rough stretch over the past little bit. As per sportsnet.ca, the goaltending has been sub .900 for 3 consecutive starts for Samsonov, and sub .900 for Murray for 4 of 6 of his last starts.
But every good team goes through some some garbage stretches over the course of a season. I'm quite comfortable with the team moving into the new year. Nobody is being overplayed unsustainably, nor performing at some unsustainable rate.
But every good team goes through some some garbage stretches over the course of a season. I'm quite comfortable with the team moving into the new year. Nobody is being overplayed unsustainably, nor performing at some unsustainable rate.
azzurri63
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It's a forum and we all post what we want. You guys know me I'm passionate as they can get. When they mail games in yes I get heated. I've been cheering for this team for 50+ years and would like nothing more than this team to succeed just like the rest of you but watching us continually shit the bed against weaker teams is frustrating. Yes it's sports and anything can happen, guys have bad days but seems to be a reoccurring theme and especially against Arizona.
I believe it was 2 years ago, TO played the Yotes, they had 8 or 10 injuries and TO lost. For me games against these types of teams are litmus tests of TO's potential, that same year TO played another bottom 3 team and lost then played Pitts. without Crosby, Malkin and Letang and lost 6 to 0, these games were in the space of 2 weeks. I believe TO had a pretty healthy lineup at that time so I view what happened last night as a character/talent summation of the state of the Leafs, it's not good.
The one thing I've felt is that TO defensive zeal drops off as the more ridiculously overpaid d-men return to the lineup. Brodie and Rielly aren't great d-men, Brodie has little puck possession ability, no physicality, offensively inept and these weaknesses greatly inhibit his d results, Rielly has little defensive IQ and is only productive when he's hot but even then he only helps TO outscore his short comings.
Why has TO done so well without them, it's obvious that their subtraction was addition, Pitts. won the Cup without Letang, with basically a no name d, this malarkey of constantly adding marginal players in the name of better d is just that malarkey, removing potential sources of offense for more d is just pure insanity as we've see the last 6 years and the MO shows no signs of abating.
The one thing I've felt is that TO defensive zeal drops off as the more ridiculously overpaid d-men return to the lineup. Brodie and Rielly aren't great d-men, Brodie has little puck possession ability, no physicality, offensively inept and these weaknesses greatly inhibit his d results, Rielly has little defensive IQ and is only productive when he's hot but even then he only helps TO outscore his short comings.
Why has TO done so well without them, it's obvious that their subtraction was addition, Pitts. won the Cup without Letang, with basically a no name d, this malarkey of constantly adding marginal players in the name of better d is just that malarkey, removing potential sources of offense for more d is just pure insanity as we've see the last 6 years and the MO shows no signs of abating.
Highlander
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Ok just the league can F off.Bullfrog said:
Highlander
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Used to be the Blues had our number, remember when they came back from 5-1 in the 3rd to win in regulation 6-5. That was a true Argo's moment at the time.bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip
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Yup.Bullfrog said: