Marlies Training Camp Thread
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bustaheims
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Corn Flake said:
Yeah. He's more of a Darcy Tucker type.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Devane racked up 125 plm's last season, I like the fact they don't have an Orr or Rosehill, they have five or six guys who can drop them, which is kinda how the NHL is moving too, solid contributors who can drop them when needed.
Corn Flake
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armche123 said:
This should help: http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/8826
Devane is 6'5", 215 lbs and gladly fights. From reports I have seen (I have not seen him live yet) he sounds like he's a Mike Rupp type player.. won't put up huge points but also isn't completely useless. So not a pure enforcer but plenty tough.
Corn Flake
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bustaheims said:
Yeah. Just as nasty but does his thing with kind of of a calm precision rather than an emotional ball of crazy like Darcy was. He has a little bit of... dare I use the name.... Claude Lemieux in him , sans the gutless whining, running and hiding ... played a half step over the edge but never lost his cool and was completely sinister, and was a pretty good hockey player.
caveman said:
I dont think this kind of logic makes any sense. if a guy wants to attack a prospect, he can, regardless of who happens to be on the bench.
What if 10 shifts later (when the prospect is in the hospital). the tough guy (A) and the guy (B) who beat up the prospect are on the ice together? Guy B just runs away or turtles. That's it. You cant get yourself more hated than Sean Avery -- but Avery never got beat up bad did he? You can always escape. The idea of protection via enforcer just doesnt make sense as far as i can see... but so many people seem to believe it. id be happy to have the mechanics of this defence mechanism explained in detail. (And id also like to understand why a guy like datsuyk or lidstrom is still standing at the end of the year in those years detroit had no enforcer.)
The Marlies weren't much of a fighting team last season either. They ranked 21st in the AHL with 49 fighting majors. Kyle Neuber and Kelsey Wilson were the teams fighting leaders with 10 and 8 fights respectively and both of those players won't be returning. That could definitely give Devane an advantage as he's the only incoming player who really fits that role.
The other day Eakins talked about how difficult it's going to be for some of the younger guys to crack this roster, especially since the team is more or less the same as the one that went to the Calder Cup finals. With that said, here's my guess as to what the line-up will be opening night:
Hamilton-Aucoin-Kadri
D'Amigo-Colborne-Ashton
Komarov-Zigomanis-Deschamps
Devane-Acton-Scott
Fraser-Holzer
Gardiner-Kostka
Gysbers-Blacker
Scrivens
The only two notable forwards missing from last years team are Dupuis and Mueller with Aucoin and Komarov coming in. The top-6 guys, Zigo, and Komarov are all likely locks to make the team. The remaining 4 spots will be battled over but Deschamps, Acton and Scott all have the advantage of having proven they can play those roles on a close-to-championship team already. It will take a huge effort for someone to knock them out of the line-up. There's one spot remaining that used to typically belong to an enforcer, which is why I think Devane has the best chance of taking it. McKegg, Ross, Carrick, Crescenzi, Ryan and Abbott can all remain and practice with the team as there aren't any roster limits in the AHL, but they'll likely also see some time in the ECHL.
Other than Holzer and Fraser, I'm not sure what the defence pairings will look like but those are very likely the 6 that will start the season. I know nothing about Dylan Yeo but he spent some time in the ECHL last season so I'd imagine he's on a level below those 6. Paul Ranger is an obvious wildcard here as it's impossible to know where his game is at right now.
Scrivens is obviously a lock to start in net. The choice for the back-up will be interesting though. Would the Leafs rather have their number 2 guy getting more starts in the ECHL or backing up in the AHL?
Hamilton-Aucoin-Kadri
D'Amigo-Colborne-Ashton
Komarov-Zigomanis-Deschamps
Devane-Acton-Scott
Fraser-Holzer
Gardiner-Kostka
Gysbers-Blacker
Scrivens
The only two notable forwards missing from last years team are Dupuis and Mueller with Aucoin and Komarov coming in. The top-6 guys, Zigo, and Komarov are all likely locks to make the team. The remaining 4 spots will be battled over but Deschamps, Acton and Scott all have the advantage of having proven they can play those roles on a close-to-championship team already. It will take a huge effort for someone to knock them out of the line-up. There's one spot remaining that used to typically belong to an enforcer, which is why I think Devane has the best chance of taking it. McKegg, Ross, Carrick, Crescenzi, Ryan and Abbott can all remain and practice with the team as there aren't any roster limits in the AHL, but they'll likely also see some time in the ECHL.
Other than Holzer and Fraser, I'm not sure what the defence pairings will look like but those are very likely the 6 that will start the season. I know nothing about Dylan Yeo but he spent some time in the ECHL last season so I'd imagine he's on a level below those 6. Paul Ranger is an obvious wildcard here as it's impossible to know where his game is at right now.
Scrivens is obviously a lock to start in net. The choice for the back-up will be interesting though. Would the Leafs rather have their number 2 guy getting more starts in the ECHL or backing up in the AHL?
Champ Kind
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CarltonTheBear said:
Call me crazy, but I have a feeling Paul Ranger come sin and earns a spot on the club. He was a pretty darn good defenseman for the Lightning and, while he's missed something like 3 years of play, at 28 years old he should be in the sweet spot of his career. Will be interesting to see how he comes back.
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I can recall quite a number of reporters and posters on this site and others lambasting Burke for selecting Jamie Devane in the third round a few years ago (if I recall, he and Baron Smith were the pariahs of that Leaf draft). Devane really picked up his play last year as an overage in the OHL. His 125pims are probably way lower than they will be this year (assuming he makes the Marlies) - apparently, he found it difficult to find guys who would fight him.
Corn is right, he is definitely more than simply an enforcer. I think the Rupp reference is a good one; Lucic is too much of a stretch and Andrew Peters would be, well, the epitome of false praise. Let's hope for the best....
Corn is right, he is definitely more than simply an enforcer. I think the Rupp reference is a good one; Lucic is too much of a stretch and Andrew Peters would be, well, the epitome of false praise. Let's hope for the best....
maplesyrup
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Michael said:
Confused. Is that a knock on Kadri or in praise of D'Amigo and Deschamps?
maplesyrup
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Down Goes Brown @DownGoesBrown
So I guess we can add "the buffet" to the list of things Nazem Kadri's one toe-drag move can't get past at the pro level.
So I guess we can add "the buffet" to the list of things Nazem Kadri's one toe-drag move can't get past at the pro level.
Corn Flake
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Michael said:
I don't know if it's a myth but seriously, what the heck??!!
Maybe Kadri ate chips and beer for 2 weeks after Roberts camp.
Sudafederov
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Hazemburgers anyone?
Very surprising, seeing as Eakins called him out on this same issue last year.
Very surprising, seeing as Eakins called him out on this same issue last year.
Jonas Siegel@jonasTSN1050
Eakins on Kadri: "His body fat today is probably in the bottom three to five guys in our whole camp and that?s unacceptable."
James Mirtle@mirtle
This is the real Kadri quote in that story. ?To be honest after these tests are done I might treat myself to one burger,? he said.
Wow. Not what I expected.
Eakins on Kadri: "His body fat today is probably in the bottom three to five guys in our whole camp and that?s unacceptable."
James Mirtle@mirtle
This is the real Kadri quote in that story. ?To be honest after these tests are done I might treat myself to one burger,? he said.
Wow. Not what I expected.