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Media Thread

Highlander said:
Anyone see Damian Cox's diatribe in the Star today?  Man he has some Leaf hate going on in that hairless cranium of his.
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Nope I stopped reading him years ago.  The Al Strachan/Damien Cox/Steve Simmons/Howard Berger contingent of trying to make themselves a part of the story did it in for me.  I read the Athletic and some of the blog stuff posted on here but I haven't touched a newspaper article on the Leafs in a long time. 
 
Deebo said:
You know what I haven't missed?

Coach's Corner
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I liked Don every so often. Not a fan so much of Sportsnet. Like Bieksa, but like the TSN crew better. One thing Im happy about...no Jim Hughson...now if we can get rid of Simpson all will be good.
 
Why is a Steve Simmons still granted a press pass.  I honestly can?t think of a guy who goes out of his way to be more of an asshole.  He violated Auston Matthews medical privacy.  He needs a swift kick in the nuts
 
L K said:
Why is a Steve Simmons still granted a press pass.  I honestly can?t think of a guy who goes out of his way to be more of an jerk.  He violated Auston Matthews medical privacy.  He needs a swift kick in the nuts
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Asking Matthews about the salary cap and how it gets split up was ridiculous.
 
Guilt Trip said:
L K said:
Why is a Steve Simmons still granted a press pass.  I honestly can?t think of a guy who goes out of his way to be more of an jerk.  He violated Auston Matthews medical privacy.  He needs a swift kick in the nuts
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Asking Matthews about the salary cap and how it gets split up was ridiculous.
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It was certainly.  His question directed at Shanahan that really rubbed me the wrong way.  Not so much the initial question but just the attitude.  He?s not a reporter he?s a tabloid junky
 
L K said:
Guilt Trip said:
L K said:
Why is a Steve Simmons still granted a press pass.  I honestly can?t think of a guy who goes out of his way to be more of an jerk.  He violated Auston Matthews medical privacy.  He needs a swift kick in the nuts
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Asking Matthews about the salary cap and how it gets split up was ridiculous.
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It was certainly.  His question directed at Shanahan that really rubbed me the wrong way.  Not so much the initial question but just the attitude.  He?s not a reporter he?s a tabloid junky
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Totally agree with you. Well Brendan there's never been a cup winner who's lost in 5 first rounds. He's looking for a punch in the mouth lol.
 
Shanahan and Dubas. Wow is all I can say about these two. Same sob story, excuses and pipe dreams after every demoralizing 1st round exit. F me show these 2 the door.
 
azzurri63 said:
Shanahan and Dubas. Wow is all I can say about these two. Same sob story, excuses and pipe dreams after every demoralizing 1st round exit. F me show these 2 the door.
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Just read the transcripts of their comments.  I wasn't satisfied either.  Just a bunch of generalizing and defending the process and ? now we are hearing this kind of line ? "there are plenty of guys who didn't win until their X year in the league and this bunch is special and they care so much that we can't give up on them."  What palaver, though I get that they can't really just completely trash people by name in a post-mortem presser. 

But what they could do is at least reference areas of the team that underperformed (not one mention of the PP??), rather than just prattle on about how disappointed in themselves they are.  (The questions, especially to Dubas, were mostly softballs....)
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Shanahan and Dubas. Wow is all I can say about these two. Same sob story, excuses and pipe dreams after every demoralizing 1st round exit. F me show these 2 the door.
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Just read the transcripts of their comments.  I wasn't satisfied either.  Just a bunch of generalizing and defending the process and ? now we are hearing this kind of line ? "there are plenty of guys who didn't win until their X year in the league and this bunch is special and they care so much that we can't give up on them."  What palaver, though I get that they can't really just completely trash people by name in a post-mortem presser. 

But what they could do is at least reference areas of the team that underperformed (not one mention of the PP??), rather than just prattle on about how disappointed in themselves they are.  (The questions, especially to Dubas, were mostly softballs....)
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Why it irks me is it's the same crap we here from them for the last few years. Comes a time when you have to maybe consider that the core is not what you think they are and make some changes. Like I said if they all played hard, contributed somewhat and we lost in a good series then yes keep going with what we have. But when your stars are underperforming to a large extent come playoffs then something is missing.
 
What do you expect them to say? Like seriously. They say the same stuff every other team says. Not good enough, like our core. You're expecting something that is never going to happen. They all said it's not good enough but you're disappointed they didn't mention names in public? Yup that Marner kid needs to get it going. That's it we're trading a core piece.
Just because some think they need to trade one of the 4, doesn't mean it's the right move and if they plan on doing it, they're not mentioning it at the end of season presser. We'll see what happens over the summer.
 
I will say, I think Marner needs to figure out a way not to get his back up.  Marner doesn't seem to do well when the media pressures him and he feels attacked because he says some really dumb things like "There's nothing I need to work on".  But at this point right now I think people are just looking for blood and you are either doing a stupid organziation approach if your management throws guys under the bus or people are going to be upset that they didn't do it.  There is no winning there.
 
L K said:
I will say, I think Marner needs to figure out a way not to get his back up.  Marner doesn't seem to do well when the media pressures him and he feels attacked because he says some really dumb things like "There's nothing I need to work on".  But at this point right now I think people are just looking for blood and you are either doing a stupid organziation approach if your management throws guys under the bus or people are going to be upset that they didn't do it.  There is no winning there.
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Marner doesn't know how to handle the media yet. He may never. Rielly is a pro at it as it JT. I think Marner's issue is between the ears. He lets it get to him and it makes him think too much instead of just playing.
 
Guilt Trip said:
What do you expect them to say? Like seriously. They say the same stuff every other team says. Not good enough, like our core. You're expecting something that is never going to happen. They all said it's not good enough but you're disappointed they didn't mention names in public? Yup that Marner kid needs to get it going. That's it we're trading a core piece.
Just because some think they need to trade one of the 4, doesn't mean it's the right move and if they plan on doing it, they're not mentioning it at the end of season presser. We'll see what happens over the summer.
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Pretty much this.

It's only been like 3 days since the loss, and body of the season is barely cold on the slab, they haven't had exit interviews with the players and staff, and Shanahan/Dubas haven't met with the ownership board, so there was literally nothing else they could/should have said without going rogue putting out something emotionally regretful.

I'm sure they individually had thoughts and ideas of what to do, but why say anything until there was a thorough analysis/autopsy and identification of root causes and proposed strategic adjustments?
 
I don't believe for a second that there's anything any of these guys could say to make anyone feel any better about the loss and a lot of what the  voices here are clamoring for is for things to be settled in the media rather than internally and professionally which just isn't going to happen.
 
Nik said:
I don't believe for a second that there's anything any of these guys could say to make anyone feel any better about the loss and a lot of what the  voices here are clamoring for is for things to be settled in the media rather than internally and professionally which just isn't going to happen.
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Ding ding ding...winner
 
herman said:
Guilt Trip said:
What do you expect them to say? Like seriously. They say the same stuff every other team says. Not good enough, like our core. You're expecting something that is never going to happen. They all said it's not good enough but you're disappointed they didn't mention names in public? Yup that Marner kid needs to get it going. That's it we're trading a core piece.
Just because some think they need to trade one of the 4, doesn't mean it's the right move and if they plan on doing it, they're not mentioning it at the end of season presser. We'll see what happens over the summer.
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Pretty much this.

It's only been like 3 days since the loss, and body of the season is barely cold on the slab, they haven't had exit interviews with the players and staff, and Shanahan/Dubas haven't met with the ownership board, so there was literally nothing else they could/should have said without going rogue putting out something emotionally regretful.

I'm sure they individually had thoughts and ideas of what to do, but why say anything until there was a thorough analysis/autopsy and identification of root causes and proposed strategic adjustments?
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Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy? 
 
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