Media Thread

[bustaheims]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

 

[ZBBM]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

Uh, that's not an answer.

 

[bustaheims]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

Uh, that's not an answer.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an answer. It's how the business works. Yesterday was locker clean out/exit interview day. That's when end of season pressers are held. It's really that simple.

 

[mr grieves]

Why is a Steve Simmons still granted a press pass.  I honestly can?t think of a guy who goes out of his way to be more of an jerk.  He violated Auston Matthews medical privacy.  He needs a swift kick in the nuts

Asking Matthews about the salary cap and how it gets split up was ridiculous.

Agreed.

And Matthews's response, that it's not his job to think about that stuff, was a very good answer! That is the GM's job.

From the end of season presser:

What continues to give you faith and confidence that spending so much on four forwards can work, especially now that we are living in a flat-cap world?

Dubas: It hasn?t happened all at once yet. I understand, as we sit here today, why there is scrutiny around that. I understand why there is scrutiny around it at large. Pittsburgh, when they won in 2009, had a similar percentage to their top four players, but they weren?t all forwards. I understand the question marks around it here.

I just really believe in all four of them as people. [...]

It doesn't inspire much confidence that Dubas's only example of this management strategy resulting in a Stanley Cup winner comes from over a decade ago, but I don't think he's even right about that team.

The 2008-9 Penguins were built under a $56.7M cap. Crosby was earning $8.7M (15%), Gonchar $5M (9%), Fleury $5M (9%), and Malkin was still on the last year of an ELC which, with bonuses, was $3.834M (7%).

So, there's neither an example of a Cup winner putting 50% of their cap into four forwards nor even of one putting 50% of their cap into any four players.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Not Leaf or even hockey related, but uhhh...

https://twitter.com/Michael_Traikos/status/1400553196855115779
https://twitter.com/Michael_Traikos/status/1400554377388118020
https://twitter.com/Michael_Traikos/status/1400554211956473857
https://twitter.com/Michael_Traikos/status/1400554523303854087

 

[ZBBM]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

Uh, that's not an answer.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an answer. It's how the business works. Yesterday was locker clean out/exit interview day. That's when end of season pressers are held. It's really that simple.

Steve Jobs.

 

[Kin]

If hockey teams only held press interactions when they had something really meaningful or insightful to say they'd be cancelling 99% of all media interactions.

 

[Guilt Trip]

If hockey teams only held press interactions when they had something really meaningful or insightful to say they'd be cancelling 99% of all media interactions.

Haha that is so true.

 

[Deebo]

Not Leaf or even hockey related, but uhhh...

That's as dumb as that guy who doesn't understand why people wash their hands after they use bathroom.

 

[bustaheims]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

Uh, that's not an answer.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an answer. It's how the business works. Yesterday was locker clean out/exit interview day. That's when end of season pressers are held. It's really that simple.

Steve Jobs.

Has what exactly to do with how a sports franchise manages the PR side of their business? It's not like the Leafs are announcing new products.

 

[ZBBM]

Well, yeah: so why hold a presser yesterday if the only thing they are going to be able or willing to dispense is platitudes?  Why not wait until they have done their autopsy?

Because, that's how the business works.

Uh, that's not an answer.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an answer. It's how the business works. Yesterday was locker clean out/exit interview day. That's when end of season pressers are held. It's really that simple.

Steve Jobs.

Has what exactly to do with how a sports franchise manages the PR side of their business? It's not like the Leafs are announcing new products.

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

 

[Kin]

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

What aspect of the business would you like to see changed? Teams should block media access if they don't think anyone's going to say anything interesting?

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

What aspect of the business would you like to see changed? Teams should block media access if they don't think anyone's going to say anything interesting?

I personally would like to see the team publicly devalue many of their players, and also to lay out all of their future plans for us as well as for their competitors. Is that too much to ask?

 

[herman]

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

What aspect of the business would you like to see changed? Teams should block media access if they don't think anyone's going to say anything interesting?

I personally would like to see the team publicly devalue many of their players, and also to lay out all of their future plans for us as well as for their competitors. Is that too much to ask?

I would also like their players (particularly star players) to publicly air any season-long grievances that have been percolating in the dressing room, be it against the team's front office, or other players in the room. 

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

What aspect of the business would you like to see changed? Teams should block media access if they don't think anyone's going to say anything interesting?

I personally would like to see the team publicly devalue many of their players, and also to lay out all of their future plans for us as well as for their competitors. Is that too much to ask?

I would also like their players (particularly star players) to publicly air any season-long grievances that have been percolating in the dressing room, be it against the team's front office, or other players in the room.

Yes, please that too. Transcripts of internal emails and text messages would be helpful.

 

[Bullfrog]

I would also like their players (particularly star players) to publicly air any season-long grievances that have been percolating in the dressing room, be it against the team's front office, or other players in the room.

Seriously, why DOES Nylander clip his toenails in the dressing room? It's gross.

 

[ZBBM]

Not locked into the idea that "this is how our business is done and we can never ever change."

What aspect of the business would you like to see changed? Teams should block media access if they don't think anyone's going to say anything interesting?

The idea that Leafs brass can't be in the least self-critical other than in an anodyne, almost self-serving way.  You all can go back to my original post to suss out what that *doesn't* mean, the point of which all your fun comments completely miss.

 

[Kin]

The idea that Leafs brass can't be in the least self-critical other than in an anodyne, almost self-serving way.

I don't think anyone is saying they can't. I think you'd have to make a pretty compelling case as to why they'd want to. Regardless of whether it's for team cohesiveness or just self-interest nobody is going to announce "I did a bad job" to the media.

 

[Arn]

I was actually talking about this earlier with some friends (in relation to the Naomi Osaka quitting the French Open cos she refused to give media interviews thing).

I used to do media for my local team. I was I guess a bit like Paul Hendrick in that I was inside the organisation so I wasn?t meant to be ?critical? as much as it could be avoided.

I used to do all the post game locker room interviews and all that was about was being the first media out. It?s all about that edge now with social media and driving people to our content.

As much as I tried to make it about good questions and content the better media trained players just fired out soundbytes and rarely did we get any actual good content in these interviews. Where we did get good stuff was when we had proper long form conversations with guys .

The whole media industry now is about getting one quote, turning it into a 400 word article and getting your clicks, not about actual quality content.

 

[ZBBM]

I was actually talking about this earlier with some friends (in relation to the Naomi Osaka quitting the French Open cos she refused to give media interviews thing).

I used to do media for my local team. I was I guess a bit like Paul Hendrick in that I was inside the organisation so I wasn?t meant to be ?critical? as much as it could be avoided.

I used to do all the post game locker room interviews and all that was about was being the first media out. It?s all about that edge now with social media and driving people to our content.

As much as I tried to make it about good questions and content the better media trained players just fired out soundbytes and rarely did we get any actual good content in these interviews. Where we did get good stuff was when we had proper long form conversations with guys .

The whole media industry now is about getting one quote, turning it into a 400 word article and getting your clicks, not about actual quality content.

Good points Arn.