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Media Thread

Arn said:
I was actually talking about this earlier with some friends (in relation to the Naomi Osaka quitting the French Open cos she refused to give media interviews thing).

I used to do media for my local team. I was I guess a bit like Paul Hendrick in that I was inside the organisation so I wasn?t meant to be ?critical? as much as it could be avoided.

I used to do all the post game locker room interviews and all that was about was being the first media out. It?s all about that edge now with social media and driving people to our content.

As much as I tried to make it about good questions and content the better media trained players just fired out soundbytes and rarely did we get any actual good content in these interviews. Where we did get good stuff was when we had proper long form conversations with guys .

The whole media industry now is about getting one quote, turning it into a 400 word article and getting your clicks, not about actual quality content.

Sports and media have always existed in a delicate balance. For years the assumption was you provided access to journalists because the trade-off, the sports pages being filled with stuff about your team, was a positive for you as a tool of promotion. While that's still probably true around the world in some places, big North American sports teams are re-examining that relationship considering the decline of traditional avenues of media consumption. Especially when so many teams have ownership stakes, or at least business relations, with large media outlets that actually broadcast the games.

As you say, the Osaka thing brought two competing viewpoints to the fore. One, that the media presence is often more confrontational than helpful to athletes and two, that athletes(and teams) now are so interested in controlling the message that they actively resist independent media in favour of their own sanitized product.

I think there's a measure of truth to both ends of that and while we can debate whether those traditional media outlets and their traditional methods of player interactions(press conferences) yield anything in useful interactions for fans there's not much you can say if teams feel that those relationships are no longer in their interests. After all, it's not like movie studios let reporters on set and have their actors field questions after a bad take.

I remember Chuck Klosterman, writing about Steve Nash, made the point that for athletes, there's no upside to saying anything interesting to a reporter. If you say something perceived as negative you're "controversial" and there are dozens of things written about you and what you said and how it means and it becomes a big headache. Say something interesting but not controversial and the same reporters probably want another 15 minutes of your time tomorrow.

Again, I'm pretty agnostic on whether Teams wanting total control of their media message is a good or bad thing but it is a reality. And fans should probably know going forward that we're not likely to see off-the-cuff locker room talk at any point in the near future.
 
Lots of people here dislike Hughson (strongly) but I thought he was OK.  His sidekick?  Not so much.

Good time to get some diversity up in the booth.  Someone mentioned this Singh fellow.  I've only seen him a couple of times on broadcasts, briefly.  Is he good?
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Lots of people here dislike Hughson (strongly) but I thought he was OK.  His sidekick?  Not so much.

Good time to get some diversity up in the booth.  Someone mentioned this Singh fellow.  I've only seen him a couple of times on broadcasts, briefly.  Is he good?
Anyone who uses Smeagol as a verb should be fired into the Sun.
 
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Good time to get some diversity up in the booth.  Someone mentioned this Singh fellow.  I've only seen him a couple of times on broadcasts, briefly.  Is he good?

I've thought he was very good in the few games I've heard.
 
Nik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Good time to get some diversity up in the booth.  Someone mentioned this Singh fellow.  I've only seen him a couple of times on broadcasts, briefly.  Is he good?

I've thought he was very good in the few games I've heard.

He's still raw I think as a National commentator but I like his energy.  Hughson just seemed disinterested in calling games if the Canucks weren't part of the game.
 
I'm not the biggest fan of Steve Dangle but he certainly has done a solid job of turning yelling into pretty involved hockey career.
 
L K said:
I'm not the biggest fan of Steve Dangle but he certainly has done a solid job of turning yelling into pretty involved hockey career.

I kind of only listened to the semi-annual CJ guest pod, but now...
 
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1442889369220796418

I've grumbled about the role/value of "insiders" but this is a pretty big get for TSN regardless. Especially with McKenzie retiring. Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1442889369220796418

I've grumbled about the role/value of "insiders" but this is a pretty big get for TSN regardless. Especially with McKenzie retiring. Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.

I'd be curious. I'm not sure why he couldn't write for the Toronto Star, which seemed like something he wanted to do, and also continue on Hockey Night in Canada.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I've grumbled about the role/value of "insiders" but this is a pretty big get for TSN regardless. Especially with McKenzie retiring. Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.

At the very least it doesn't make sense to have Friedman and Johnston at the same place. Whatever the value of the "insider", having two was just pointless.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1442889369220796418

I've grumbled about the role/value of "insiders" but this is a pretty big get for TSN regardless. Especially with McKenzie retiring. Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.

He talks a little bit about it on the Steve Dangle podcast where they announced CJ's new show, he said he never felt like he "belonged" at HNIC.
 
Dappleganger said:
I'd be curious. I'm not sure why he couldn't write for the Toronto Star, which seemed like something he wanted to do, and also continue on Hockey Night in Canada.

His actual employer is NordStar. NordStar acquired TorStar, the holding company that owns/operates the Toronto Star (among other periodicals), so that's why he's in the sports 'newsroom' there. I suppose there's something in the Sportsnet contract that prevented him from branching out as widely as he is now (CJ Show on sdpn, Insider on TSN); I don't see any other Sportsnet personality in other outlets, whereas a number of TSN personalities are non-exclusive (Ferraro, Miller, LeBrun, Johnson, etc.).
 
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.

I haven't heard it yet, but I hear CJ goes into some detail on yesterday's podcast.

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dy8odWXnY
And it's pretty much what I expected
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Wonder how his departure from Sportsnet went down.

I haven't heard it yet, but I hear CJ goes into some detail on yesterday's podcast.

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dy8odWXnY
And it's pretty much what I expected

TLDW version plz

herman said:
His actual employer is NordStar. NordStar acquired TorStar, the holding company that owns/operates the Toronto Star (among other periodicals), so that's why he's in the sports 'newsroom' there. I suppose there's something in the Sportsnet contract that prevented him from branching out as widely as he is now (CJ Show on sdpn, Insider on TSN); I don't see any other Sportsnet personality in other outlets, whereas a number of TSN personalities are non-exclusive (Ferraro, Miller, LeBrun, Johnson, etc.).

Basically confirmed. He was just on contract with Sportsnet, but while it wasn't a full salaried/benefits agreement, they're still exclusive (writing, tv); Chris took an offer for his writing with NordStar. Sportsnet then basically ghosted him so TSN picked up the on the opening and offersheeted him. CJ wanted the flexibility to branch out and try stuff: write, pod, tv, maybe more. TSN and NordStar were open to non-exclusive across media streams.
 
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