Nonis using depth to go shopping....

[bustaheims]

He's not?

I wouldn't consider him to be soft, but, I wouldn't exactly call him tough either. He's a big guy, so, he can play a physical game, but, it's certainly not an area where he excels. He's definitely not the type of guy that imposes his will, physically. He's pretty run of the mill in the toughness department.

 

[maplesyrup]

They also need primary scoring since Kessel is in a slump.

 

[Newbury]

In front of the net would be a good spot... I don't know. Lupul is power forward(ish) but I think Penner could (BIG COULD) bring something that to the table we don't already have.  - Might help us a little in tougher too. I think those Boston games showed us we're lacking in that dept.

In what world did I wake up in where Dustin Penner is considered tough?

He's not?

Simply put, no.

 

[maplesyrup]

He's not?

I wouldn't consider him to be soft, but, I wouldn't exactly call him tough either. He's a big guy, so, he can play a physical game, but, it's certainly not an area where he excels. He's definitely not the type of guy that imposes his will, physically. He's pretty run of the mill in the toughness department.

I don't know. He strikes me as a guy a team like Boston might assign their best/biggest defenceman (Chara) to remove from the front of the net, possible giving Kessel (or any other forward for that matter) more elbow room out there. 

 

[bustaheims]

I don't know. He strikes me as a guy a team like Boston might assign their best/biggest defenceman (Chara) to remove from the front of the net, possible giving Kessel (or any other forward for that matter) more elbow room out there.

Penner's just not that type of player. The Charas of the league will always be assigned to the Kessels of the league. The Penners get matched up with the Seidenbergs.

 

[Kin]

He's not?

He's not tougher than Kulemin or Grabo or any number of guys the Leafs already have. He's bigger than them, sure, but it's not like that size has translated into any pucks going into the net.

 

[maplesyrup]

Bah... I still like the idea of a 4 month (or so) experiment with Penner if he could be had for the right price.

 

[Tigger]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

 

[maplesyrup]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

 

[Tigger]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Ah, right, well I'm not sure of the likelihood of trading an oft injured centre facing the possibility of surgery on his shoulder currently. How does it makes sense from LA's end?

 

[bustaheims]

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Until Lombardi can show he's healthy, in shape and capable of contributing, there's no way the Kings would even consider him in a deal. They won't take on an extra year @ $3.5M to save the prorated portion of the $750K difference between them, even with Penner's struggles. Heck, even if Lombardi was healthy, I think the extra year on his deal might be prohibitive to LA. I don't think Lombardi is going to be a Leaf for very long, but, until he's healthy, he's going nowhere - and, even when he is, he's unlikely to return anything but a mid-round pick/mediocre prospect, or a smaller contract that also runs through the end of next season.

 

[Zee]

I like this talk of Lombardi to the Kings.  The GM is Lombardi, he naturally wants the same last name coming onto his team.

 

[maplesyrup]

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Until Lombardi can show he's healthy, in shape and capable of contributing, there's no way the Kings would even consider him in a deal. They won't take on an extra year @ $3.5M to save the prorated portion of the $750K difference between them, even with Penner's struggles. Heck, even if Lombardi was healthy, I think the extra year on his deal might be prohibitive to LA. I don't think Lombardi is going to be a Leaf for very long, but, until he's healthy, he's going nowhere - and, even when he is, he's unlikely to return anything but a mid-round pick/mediocre prospect, or a smaller contract that also runs through the end of next season.

I could be wrong but I think the Kings might be eager enough to get rid of Penner to do that. Adding fuel to often busted machine in my noggin is that maybe there's a relationship there with Lombardi and (rumoured soon to be) new coach Darryl Sutter.  :-\

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Until Lombardi can show he's healthy, in shape and capable of contributing, there's no way the Kings would even consider him in a deal. They won't take on an extra year @ $3.5M to save the prorated portion of the $750K difference between them, even with Penner's struggles. Heck, even if Lombardi was healthy, I think the extra year on his deal might be prohibitive to LA. I don't think Lombardi is going to be a Leaf for very long, but, until he's healthy, he's going nowhere - and, even when he is, he's unlikely to return anything but a mid-round pick/mediocre prospect, or a smaller contract that also runs through the end of next season.

I could be wrong but I think the Kings might be eager enough to get rid of Penner to do that. Adding fuel to often busted machine in my noggin is that maybe there's a relationship there with Lombardi and (rumoured soon to be) new coach Darryl Sutter.  :-\

How do Sutters keep getting these NHL jobs. Everything they touch turns to pooh.

 

[maplesyrup]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Ah, right, well I'm not sure of the likelihood of trading an oft injured centre facing the possibility of surgery on his shoulder currently. How does it makes sense from LA's end?

It would be a gamble but they'd get the extra year out of Lombardi and again, I'm operating under the assumption that LA isn't exactly high on Penner right now.

 

[bustaheims]

I could be wrong but I think the Kings might be eager enough to get rid of Penner to do that. Adding fuel to often busted machine in my noggin is that maybe there's a relationship there with Lombardi and (rumoured soon to be) new coach Darryl Sutter.  :-\

Relationship or not, the Kings aren't going to add any contracts that risk having them miss out on the Zach Parise sweepstakes this summer. If they're really that eager to get rid of Penner, they could easily find a taker that didn't involve taking on a contract that lasts past this season. As an impending UFA, Penner's contract doesn't hurt his value as much.

 

[Tigger]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Ah, right, well I'm not sure of the likelihood of trading an oft injured centre facing the possibility of surgery on his shoulder currently. How does it makes sense from LA's end?

It would be a gamble but they'd get the extra year out of Lombardi and again, I'm operating under the assumption that LA isn't exactly high on Penner right now.

Maybe so but don't you think LA could do better than that? Penner as a deadline rental should fetch something way more appealing.

 

[maplesyrup]

I could be wrong but I think the Kings might be eager enough to get rid of Penner to do that. Adding fuel to often busted machine in my noggin is that maybe there's a relationship there with Lombardi and (rumoured soon to be) new coach Darryl Sutter.  :-\

Relationship or not, the Kings aren't going to add any contracts that risk having them miss out on the Zach Parise sweepstakes this summer. If they're really that eager to get rid of Penner, they could easily find a taker that didn't involve taking on a contract that lasts past this season. As an impending UFA, Penner's contract doesn't hurt his value as much.

Well, In addition to Penner's 4.25, they also get rid of Stoll's 3.6 and Mitchell's 3.5 and have no significant RFAs to sign... I think they'd be fine as far as the Parise sweeps go.

 

[maplesyrup]

Kind of handcuffs Burke's ability to pull off a trade later, cap wise, without a lot of dough going the other way.

That's why I suggested Lombardi... No offense to Lombardi but I'm not sure what his future is with this team... where does he fit?

Ah, right, well I'm not sure of the likelihood of trading an oft injured centre facing the possibility of surgery on his shoulder currently. How does it makes sense from LA's end?

It would be a gamble but they'd get the extra year out of Lombardi and again, I'm operating under the assumption that LA isn't exactly high on Penner right now.

Maybe so but don't you think LA could do better than that? Penner as a deadline rental should fetch something way more appealing.

Yeah, you might be right... My feeling remains the same though... I wouldn't mind taking Penner for a test drive if the price was right. I'm not sure I'd give up much more than a Lombardi though.

 

[Deebo]

Why would the Kings want him though?

They could move Penner, if they wanted to move him that is, without taking on a risky contract like Lombardi.