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Bates said:
Turris's entry level deal is one he got for potential.  His second deal is one he should earn and he has not done that.  If he wasn't young and drafted high there would be zero offers for him.
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I don't know if that's true. He scored well enough in the AHL and his numbers last year aren't spectacular but they're not terrible for a player of his age. People pay for potential.

Bates said:
  Schenn is a 21 year old 2nd pairing d-man.  He has not proven to be a great 2nd pairing defenceman.  I believe every team will have this type of player and yes every draft there will be several picked.  While Luke was picked 5th in 08 it could be argued that he is actually the 7th or 8th best d-man drafted that year.
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Again, we just won't see eye to eye on Schenn. Not everyone will have a defenseman of his age and his potential and who's done things like lead the league in hits or had the kind of solid rookie season he did.
 
Saint Nik said:
Erndog said:
Oshie has his own injury concerns.  I don't know how many roster spots you want to gamble on guys who have a history of injuries (we have Connolly and Lombardi already).
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Is Oshie a guy who even represents a specific upgrade? Or does he come in and serve as the team's 4th #2 centre?
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The Leafs have a few good players but picking up more good players now I think is pointless.

We need a top forward or nothing.

13 said:
Erndog said:
13 said:
As long as Wilson seems to not trust Kadri at all does he get thrown into a package with say a Franson and maybe a prospect/draft pick/Bozak for a real first line C?
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But CAN a package of Kadri + Franson + prospect/pick get a first line C?

I'm talking in the E.Staal/Getzlaf/Spezza/Richards/Kopitar mold.

I don't think so.
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That's what I'm wondering. Franson is supposed to have all this upside, Kadri has played maybe 30 NHL games in 4 years also supposedly with wads of upside, Bozak I think is horribly underated here because he was forced into a #1 C when he clearly shouldn't have been in that situation. I like and believe in all three but Wilson seems to have no time for Franson or Kadri. I believe with just those 2 alone we should be able to upgrade over a Lombardi or Connolly. Nothing against either but, they ain't #1's in my opinion and both are injury prone. Hell, throw one of 'em in as well.
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For the Leafs to stay under the CAP next year I think any trade at this point that sees a large contract coming to the Leafs would have to include 3 players from the list:
Connolly
Lupul
Lombardi
MacArthur
Grabovski (assuming he gets Connolly type money next year)
Kulemin (assuming he gets Lupul type money next year)
Komisarek
Schenn
Liles (unless the Leafs aren't looking to re-sign him or someone comparable)

....So I guess anyone over $3 MIL not named Kessel.

The 3 I would prefer to see gone are:

Connolly off the top line replaced with an elite center

MacArthur replaced by Frattin or Lombardi

Komisarek replaced by Franson as our 6th dman.

The Leafs would then have the room to trade for a top center AND re-sign Grabovski and Kulemin.
 
Britishbulldog said:
Saint Nik said:
Erndog said:
Oshie has his own injury concerns.  I don't know how many roster spots you want to gamble on guys who have a history of injuries (we have Connolly and Lombardi already).
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Is Oshie a guy who even represents a specific upgrade? Or does he come in and serve as the team's 4th #2 centre?
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The Leafs have a few good players but picking up more good players now I think is pointless.

We need a top forward or nothing.
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People have been saying this for over a year but I disagree. If the opportunity comes along to acquire a player who fills a void we're missing, I'm not going to be against trading for him just because he's not a top player.
 
Burke to be on Fan590 in a few minutes (5:20pm)
http://player.rogersradio.ca/cjcl/on_air
 
Fanatic said:
Hypothetically, if he was to sit out all year, does that do anything to his eventual UFA status? Does it move it up a year?
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Well, he'll be a year closer to turning 27, but, otherwise, no. In fact, it means he won't hit the required 7 seasons until the end of the same season that he would have qualified to be a UFA based on age.
 
Related to this thread, Burke did say that the phone has been ringing but there's been nothing offered that he has to think about.

He acknowledged with Aulie in the AHL that they have an excess of NHL dmen but said that the minute they move one, another guy would get injured. So they need an offer to blow them away before they'd move one of them.
 
Jalili said:
Britishbulldog said:
Saint Nik said:
Erndog said:
Oshie has his own injury concerns.  I don't know how many roster spots you want to gamble on guys who have a history of injuries (we have Connolly and Lombardi already).
Click to expand...

Is Oshie a guy who even represents a specific upgrade? Or does he come in and serve as the team's 4th #2 centre?
Click to expand...

The Leafs have a few good players but picking up more good players now I think is pointless.

We need a top forward or nothing.
Click to expand...

People have been saying this for over a year but I disagree. If the opportunity comes along to acquire a player who fills a void we're missing, I'm not going to be against trading for him just because he's not a top player.
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I think it's more along the lines of 'more of the same won't change a lot'. What voids are you thinking of that could be filled?
 
Tigger said:
Jalili said:
Britishbulldog said:
Saint Nik said:
Erndog said:
Oshie has his own injury concerns.  I don't know how many roster spots you want to gamble on guys who have a history of injuries (we have Connolly and Lombardi already).
Click to expand...

Is Oshie a guy who even represents a specific upgrade? Or does he come in and serve as the team's 4th #2 centre?
Click to expand...

The Leafs have a few good players but picking up more good players now I think is pointless.

We need a top forward or nothing.
Click to expand...

People have been saying this for over a year but I disagree. If the opportunity comes along to acquire a player who fills a void we're missing, I'm not going to be against trading for him just because he's not a top player.
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I think it's more along the lines of 'more of the same won't change a lot'. What voids are you thinking of that could be filled?
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Size up front, particularly someone that uses it a lot.
 
LeBrun;

link: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/12068/kyle-turris-trade-talks-heating-up

Leafs Trade Talks

The trade calls are heating up in Toronto, a source told ESPN.com Tuesday, with the New York Rangers among the clubs that have redialed the 416 area code of late.

As we reported last week, blueliner Cody Franson is available in Toronto.

Here?s the quandary, however, for the Leafs according to the same source: Do you make a deal now and risk alienating the equilibrium you?ve got in a dressing room that?s surprised everyone in the opening month? Perhaps you wait until later in the season to deal away a defenseman from that surplus you?ve got in Toronto. That?s the debate inside the Leafs? front office.



 
I read that yesterday.  It doesn't really say anything other than, I guess, the Rangers called us more than once.

I'm more interested in who WE are targetting than who wants to grab one of our excess d-men like Franson.
 
Floyd said:
LeBrun;

link: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/12068/kyle-turris-trade-talks-heating-up

Leafs Trade Talks

The trade calls are heating up in Toronto, a source told ESPN.com Tuesday, with the New York Rangers among the clubs that have redialed the 416 area code of late.

As we reported last week, blueliner Cody Franson is available in Toronto.

Here?s the quandary, however, for the Leafs according to the same source: Do you make a deal now and risk alienating the equilibrium you?ve got in a dressing room that?s surprised everyone in the opening month? Perhaps you wait until later in the season to deal away a defenseman from that surplus you?ve got in Toronto. That?s the debate inside the Leafs? front office.
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I say wait until we get Reimer back and healthy so we know what this team looks like going forward.  If we're above .500 over the next 10 games, we'll be in good shape at the quarter point of the season.  Just a 6-4 record over the next 10 would leave the Leafs sitting pretty at 13-7-1 over 21 games or a 105 point pace.  At that point you can deal from a position of strength. 
 
Erndog said:
I read that yesterday.  It doesn't really say anything other than, I guess, the Rangers called us more than once.

I'm more interested in who WE are targetting than who wants to grab one of our excess d-men like Franson.
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True... Though I'm wondering if we secured a pick (I have no idea what kind Franson is worth) a package of that pick (and/or others) + a player would entice other teams as much (or more) later on in a much bigger deal than Franson +... 
 
Erndog said:
I read that yesterday.  It doesn't really say anything other than, I guess, the Rangers called us more than once.

I'm more interested in who WE are targetting than who wants to grab one of our excess d-men like Franson.
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Yeah. All I really get from that article is that the Rangers are interested but haven't offered anything interesting enough for Burke to pull the trigger - if they've even made an actual offer.
 
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