GhostofPotvin29
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Bates said:
There's a few highlight videos of him on youtube, I just grabbed the first one, but judging from the first 30 seconds it seems to show what we're talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tfMeuDpJn0
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There's a few highlight videos of him on youtube, I just grabbed the first one, but judging from the first 30 seconds it seems to show what we're talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tfMeuDpJn0
Corn Flake said:
Exactly how I feel.
Would be a good addition sure (depending on cost), but won't have a huge impact on the teams fortunes one way or another. He's a quality 2nd line forward. Not really a huge building block or anything.
He's a low maintenance player, on a great contract, capable of 25 goals... so he would certainly help but he's still more of a complimentary player than a cornerstone.
Corn Flake
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Erndog said:
Brown to Vancouver or New Jersey would make a whole lot of sense.
Corn Flake
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LeBrun just tweeted "My guess is that the Leafs would be willing to move Luke Schenn in a straight swap for Dustin Brown but Kings will want more."
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I kind of hope not.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I kind of hope not.
groundskeeper willie
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Corn Flake said:
I doubt LA trades their captain to a potential first round opponent, especially when that team doesn't really have the players their looking for in the first place.
Potvin, a compelation of hits, some from years ago don't really show what you are getting today. Not to mention that half those hits would see a suspension today(sad times). He is approaching 30 which we all know is not exactly a great time in the career for most power forwards. I am not saying he is not a useful piece, just that he doesn't throw those type of hits on a regular basis and does not strike fear in the his opponants. If you compare him to someone like Ott as an example. Ott spends almost all night every night getting under peoples skin something like Tucker would have been for us years ago. No one likes to play against him and get frustrated by him. I would compare Brown to a Pheneuf. There are plenty of huge hits over the years but we really don't see many game changers anymore. For the record I would do a Schenn for Brown trade.
groundskeeper willie
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Corn Flake said:
If it was Brown and Bernier for Schenn, MacArthur and something else (1st/2nd round pick?) then I would consider it. I haven't seen enough of Bernier to know if he is really the answer to the Leafs goaltending or just another Reimer though (potential starter, not quite ready yet).
GhostofPotvin29
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Bates said:
I don't know how you can say he doesn't do it on a regular basis if you don't see him on a regular basis, especially when combined with the fact that he is ALWAYS among the hit leaders for forwards:
He hits and he hits a lot.
I can say it Potvin based only on my own observations which I stated early were a small sample size. Hitting stats are a very subjective stat. When I look at stats for the Coyotes as an example and see Pyatt with 115 and Hanzel with 168 I know all I need to know about the importance of that stat. Taylor Pyatt has not thrown 115 hits in his complete NHL career.
GhostofPotvin29
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So highlight footage of him hitting = too old.
NHL stats that he's 2nd in hits this year and has been top 3 almost every season = too subjective.
But watching him play 10 NHL games? Good enough.
I'm out, I can't do it anymore.
NHL stats that he's 2nd in hits this year and has been top 3 almost every season = too subjective.
But watching him play 10 NHL games? Good enough.
I'm out, I can't do it anymore.
I never said he don't hit and I do like the player. I am just saying in today's NHL the big hitter has all been done in like the fighter. In the new world an agitator carries way more value as you can do this game in and game out without much trouble. You throw a big hit today and miss slightly causing an injury and you are admonished by almost everyone and put in the repeat offender catagory. I would guess this is why guys like Brown don't "lay" people out like to used to not so long ago. Again I have not seen him enough to make a conclusive arguement that he doesn't make the big hits anymore, just that in my limited viewing I have never seen one big hit from him. I would see him as a useful piece that I would willingly trade Schenn straight up for. He is a good 2nd line center but if Grabo is staying Brown doesn't really have a place here.
groundskeeper willie
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Bates said:
Brown's a winger. The question isn't if he is an upgrade on Grabovski, but rather on Kulemin or MacArthur. Brown is what the Leafs hope Kulemin can become, and I don't think anybody would say the Leafs, as currently constructed, would rather have MacArthur instead of Brown.
maplesyrup
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A straight up Schenn for Brown trade is something that I just don't think I'd do. I think it's close but I have to say, if Lombardi wants more than Schenn, he can get stuffed.
Guilt Trip
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I wish everyone would stop trading Schenn away. He's 22 and hasn't reached his potential imo.Sarge said:
maplesyrup
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Apparently, the kings want Schenn and Frattin...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/14975/rumblings-dustin-brown-draws-interest-kings-like-luke-schenn
No thanks...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/14975/rumblings-dustin-brown-draws-interest-kings-like-luke-schenn
No thanks...