Playoffs Round 2: Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Florida Panthers
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Kaberle15
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Leafs need a spark in game 3.
They are undefeated on the road this playoffs as well, so the hole is deep, but they can tie this on the road.
Is Wayne train this spark?
Is Logan Shawn an option for a call up? He is playing great with the Marlies...
What about Zoharna, an option?
Will Keefe break his D paring?
Anyway, NJ was down 2-0 and won in 7 against a very good goalie.
It is hard, but it is possible.
Go Leafs Go!!!
They are undefeated on the road this playoffs as well, so the hole is deep, but they can tie this on the road.
Is Wayne train this spark?
Is Logan Shawn an option for a call up? He is playing great with the Marlies...
What about Zoharna, an option?
Will Keefe break his D paring?
Anyway, NJ was down 2-0 and won in 7 against a very good goalie.
It is hard, but it is possible.
Go Leafs Go!!!
Guilt Trip
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Shaw is not an option. He's on an AHL contract.Kaberle15 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Not a bad article, and I do think results are all that matters at this time of season but it strikes me as odd that he says the Leafs are getting bullied by fresh legs in general vs. the Panthers when the Leafs basically dominated Game 2 in every metric except goals and the younger players like Marner and Nylander made mistakes that led to goals.
My analysis wouldn't be that the Leafs outplayed Tampa despite winning, they were lucky to win in some of those games, and I do think Bob blacking out is the biggest reason game 2 wasn't a 5-3 game.
louisstamos
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I'm wondering - Samsonov is definitely nursing something, and that play last game where he took a while to stand back up was an illustration of that. I'm not sure if the bad goal was a product of that, but I'm starting to wonder if a 70% healthy Samsonov would be better than 100% Woll? Does it make sense to go with Woll for game #3?
Kaberle15
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louisstamos said:
A change is needed somewhere, right ?
NJ, Florida they changed starting goalies during series and that was the turning point from them, Boston waited too much to do this and Ulmark was not the starter in 1 single game. NJ might re do it in that 0-2 role they are now.
L K said:
The Gio-Lily pair was pretty bad in game 2. To the point where I think it was pretty obvious that Florida was going even harder on their forecheck, often sending all 3 forwards in deep, when they were on the ice because they weren't worried about that pair getting the puck up and out.
I don't mind keeping Lily in, so maybe the team can go 11-7, but I think it'd be pretty inexcusable to keep Giordano in right now. He was easily the worst Leaf in both games against Florida, and wasn't particularly strong in round 1 either. Holl took most of the heat for that pairs struggles but it certainly wasn't all on him.
L K
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CarltonTheBear said:
Agreed. My concern is that Keefe won't take Gio out and we are dressing a slower lineup with Gio and Holl again. Liljegren has been disappointing too although I still think riding with him makes more sense as he is a longer term fit with the team if we are comparing equally struggling players
ZBBM
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Liljegren still is particularly vulnerable to a hard forecheck but I'd keep him in over Giordano. There can't be any sentimentality at this time of year.
If they drop G3 we might see Woll come in as a desperation move, but unless Samsonov is hurt to the point that it is obviously affecting his play it's live or die with him.
If they drop G3 we might see Woll come in as a desperation move, but unless Samsonov is hurt to the point that it is obviously affecting his play it's live or die with him.
OldTimeHockey
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Unless Samsonov is really hurt, and the pain is hurting his play, I think you stick with him. He's not playing overly different from how he was playing in the season. That goal to start the 2nd wasn't a strong goal but it's one that goalies let in all the time. It dipped about 6 inches right at the perfect spot. Right above the pad. The problem with that goal is it came at the absolute worst time in the game. It sucked the life out of the bench and the building, which led to the 3rd Florida Goal.
*Keep in mind that despite the Leafs very strong play in the 1st period of game 2, and the very little shots they gave up, the chances against required incredible saves by Samsonov. So, the SV% may look like crap, but the saves he was making allowed the Leafs to carry the play.
*Keep in mind that despite the Leafs very strong play in the 1st period of game 2, and the very little shots they gave up, the chances against required incredible saves by Samsonov. So, the SV% may look like crap, but the saves he was making allowed the Leafs to carry the play.
OldTimeHockey
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Bender said:
Great, but Bobrovsky playing lights out doesn't mean that Samsonov is playing poorly and needs to be demoted.
That's like saying Jack Eichel should be benched because Draisaitl has 6 goals in 2 games.
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Can the Leafs play with four skaters and two goalies?
dappleganger
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It's going to suck if the Leafs end another playoffs with a goalie that has a save percentage under .900%
OldTimeHockey said:
The idea that Sammy is facing quality chances so we should go easy on him or is playing good enough because the other team is getting quality chances is kind of ridicukous. If two goalies are facing each other and one is handily out duelling the other while facing more difficult chances against then I really don't see a problem in seeing if you can do better with another goalie, especially if he's injured which, like I said, it looks like Sammy is.
Guilt Trip
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It isn't over until it's over. Florida seems to be this year's Cinderella team. Been a weird series really. Is what it is.Significantly Insignificant said: