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R1, G3: Bruins @ Maple Leafs - Apr. 24th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050

Rob said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You guys are overthinking this.

Boston was always going to have the edge in the series because they have better goaltending.

One of our top offensive players is less than 100% with an injury that directly hampers his skating.

One of our emerging offensive players is out entirely.

One of our other top offensive players is out entirely.

Boston has lost one of their d-men but it's a lesser loss to the team.

Overall, clear advantage Boston and it's an uphill battle for us that's compounded by a maddeningly anemic PP.

Right now to me it looks like Swayman is the difference. 
Exactly. You can't have soft goals against in the playoffs. Sammy was not good on any of them. They won't win with goals like that.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Rob said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You guys are overthinking this.

Boston was always going to have the edge in the series because they have better goaltending.

One of our top offensive players is less than 100% with an injury that directly hampers his skating.

One of our emerging offensive players is out entirely.

One of our other top offensive players is out entirely.

Boston has lost one of their d-men but it's a lesser loss to the team.

Overall, clear advantage Boston and it's an uphill battle for us that's compounded by a maddeningly anemic PP.

Right now to me it looks like Swayman is the difference. 
Exactly. You can't have soft goals against in the playoffs. Sammy was not good on any of them. They won't win with goals like that.

We need to try Woll next game and see what happens.
 
I get that the Leafs were 0 for 5 on the power play, but I'm still really irked about McAvoy taking down Matthews before that Boston goal. More than the incidentals that Bertuzzi and Marchand may have taken. Star players aren't star players if the other team is allowed to do that sort of thing.
 
Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off said:
I get that the Leafs were 0 for 5 on the power play, but I'm still really irked about McAvoy taking down Matthews before that Boston goal. More than the incidentals that Bertuzzi and Marchand may have taken. Star players aren't star players if the other team is allowed to do that sort of thing.

If that penalty gets called and the first Bruins goal doesn't happen, the game likely turns out completely differently. That goal gave the Bruins momentum, and they didn't really give it up the rest of the way. Samsonov needs to make that save, but it shouldn't have gotten to that point.

I get the whole "the refs don't want to decide the game" stuff (sort of), but, by not calling blatant stuff like that, they are still deciding the game. Let the soft calls, judgment calls, etc., go if you don't want to be an excessive influence. I even get not calling some of the incidental stuff, but call the crap like that.

Also - and I know this is a bit of beating a dead horse - the league needs to allow the refs to be publicly held accountable when they make obvious gaffes like this. The NBA does it - they actually release reports on ref performances late in close games. The NHL should take a similar tactic - release a report of the obvious bad calls and missed calls. There's usually a few in each game. Don't pile on with the borderline stuff, but things like Matthews getting body slammed, some of the missed high stick calls the Leafs could have been penalized for, etc.
 
bustaheims said:
Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off said:
I get that the Leafs were 0 for 5 on the power play, but I'm still really irked about McAvoy taking down Matthews before that Boston goal. More than the incidentals that Bertuzzi and Marchand may have taken. Star players aren't star players if the other team is allowed to do that sort of thing.

If that penalty gets called and the first Bruins goal doesn't happen, the game likely turns out completely differently. That goal gave the Bruins momentum, and they didn't really give it up the rest of the way. Samsonov needs to make that save, but it shouldn't have gotten to that point.

For sure it had a huge impact on the game, but wasn't the only reason they lost. So I'm pissed about that part yes, but more that it's a trend in the NHL that teams are allowed to break the rules to stop skill players and skill plays.
 
Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off said:
For sure it had a huge impact on the game, but wasn't the only reason they lost. So I'm pissed about that part yes, but more that it's a trend in the NHL that teams are allowed to break the rules to stop skill players and skill plays.

It's not, no, but it was still a turning point. It had an outsized impact on the rest of the game.
 
That game was horrible to watch.

The "rule" in regards to penalties in the playoffs is they call anything that's "obviously" a penalty. Questionable stuff, don't expect a call. We didn't get that yesterday.

It took me out of the game. I love playoff hockey, win-lose, the compete level is great and the stakes are high. It's extremely frustrating.

 
I get that people are down on Samsonov, but he was tremendous in the first period, and as much as you want that short side save, it was a post and in shot. Hockey is a game of inches(lol)

I thought the Leafs were at least par in that game and absolutely dominated stretches of it.

Bertuzzi needs to cool the dramatics. It's taking him out of the game completely. I'd actually consider moving him away from Marchand. Marchand's greatest attribute isn't how much of a pest he is. It's that he actually performs better when he's being a pest. We've seen from Domi and Bertuzzi in the first 3 games that the same thing cannot be said for them. Domi was a disaster in the first game trying to draw penalties, and Bertuzzi's summersaults allover the ice are only bringing Marchand's best game to the ice.
 
Why are the special teams such garbage? I cannot comprehend special teams being our down fall. The whole staff has to go if they finish at their current special teams rates.
 
cabber24 said:
Why are the special teams such garbage? I cannot comprehend special teams being our down fall. The whole staff has to go if they finish at their current special teams rates.

Marner. PP runs through him and he is easy to neutralize, especially without Nylander available. Cripples the whole unit when you bonk out the engine.

And before someone here gets on my case about being biased:
https://x.com/jtbourne/status/1783607597792129465
 
cabber24 said:
Why are the special teams such garbage? I cannot comprehend special teams being our down fall. The whole staff has to go if they finish at their current special teams rates.

It's been basically the same guys on the PP for years with multiple coaches. Only Carberry was decent at it. PK has always been meh imo.
 
herman said:
cabber24 said:
Why are the special teams such garbage? I cannot comprehend special teams being our down fall. The whole staff has to go if they finish at their current special teams rates.

Marner. PP runs through him and he is easy to neutralize, especially without Nylander available. Cripples the whole unit when you bonk out the engine.

And before someone here gets on my case about being biased:
https://twitter.com/jtbourne/status/1783607597792129465

The problem with Marner is he is a pure numbers guy which obfuscates his actual utility. He has 4pts in his last 9 playoff games. He had a crazy good series against TBay last year but was bad vs Florida, Montreal and Columbus. I know he's a set up guy but he's has 10 goals in 53 playoff games. 10!! I like aspects of his game, but he very obviously wilts under pressure.
 
Bender said:
The problem with Marner is he is a pure numbers guy which obfuscates his actual utility. He has 4pts in his last 9 playoff games. He had a crazy good series against TBay last year but was bad vs Florida, Montreal and Columbus. I know he's a set up guy but he's has 10 goals in 53 playoff games. 10!! I like aspects of his game, but he very obviously wilts under pressure.

He struggles with simplifying his game when things get tougher. If he could just focus on getting the puck towards the net quicker rather than looking for the great pass, it would be a great him to his stats and to the team. No more circling the zone for the great pass or forcing the east-west play. More north-south, more taking the best available play - including putting the puck on net. That's all he needs to do, really. But, his default under pressure is to hold the puck longer.
 
Listened to Ray Ferraro on Overdrive yesterday. He said part of the problem on the PP is Rielly isn't a bomb threat so it allows the Bruins to play a little wider and that also helps take away the cross seam pass. So essentially you're down 2 things right off the hop. Says the Bruins are being really aggressive. Let's face it, Matthews is the only real shot threat out there.
What I don't get and probably many of you don't as well is why they keep running the same guys out there. Domi is good enough for 5v5 but not on the PP with Matthews?
Let's see if they adjust.
 
https://twitter.com/JhanHky/status/1783848628919861726

quick notes if you don't have 12 minutes:
[*] Marner's puck management is exceptional, except that he likes to play the puck out in front where it's easy to be disrupted, instead of his hip pocket where he can protect it with his legs. This hinders his speed and agility assets with the puck.
[*] Knowing the above, Marner plays a more conservative style in tighter checking games (i.e. anything meaningful!); slow down, grind as a group, but suck at it. This results in lower event hockey, which Marner and his line usually stay on top of in terms of percentages (CF%, xGF%), but it really neutralizes his linemates' ability to create offense

So unless he can adjust how he plays the puck (this was something I noticed like 2-3 years ago?), and/or simplify his approach for complementing his linemates, then he will continue to be great in the regular season, expensive on the cap, and useless when it counts. Or something stupid drastic like shifting entirely to RD because his playoff profile is a defenseman.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Listened to Ray Ferraro on Overdrive yesterday. He said part of the problem on the PP is Rielly isn't a bomb threat so it allows the Bruins to play a little wider and that also helps take away the cross seam pass. So essentially you're down 2 things right off the hop. Says the Bruins are being really aggressive. Let's face it, Matthews is the only real shot threat out there.
What I don't get and probably many of you don't as well is why they keep running the same guys out there. Domi is good enough for 5v5 but not on the PP with Matthews?
Let's see if they adjust.

I guess Ray doesn't know what he's talking about either.
 
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