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Rick Nash potentially available

Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

Its in line with the Mike Richards trade.
 
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.

It would have to include Kulemin.  I don't see how the Leafs fit Nash under the cap if just Schenn's salary is going the other way.
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.

It would have to include Kulemin.  I don't see how the Leafs fit Nash under the cap if just Schenn's salary is going the other way.

According to Cap Geek, Toronto has $6.9 mil in "deadline cap space" so yes, they can fit him in.

Next year? Need to jettison at least two of the bulky contracts. 
 
I've kind of avoided throwing my opinion out there on Rick Nash, but do we really need a winger more than we need a centre, a defenseman or a reliable goaltender? Shouldn't Burke use the assets he has on different areas?
 
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

Damn rumours, they're giving me the false hope that this trade might actually happen. I'm not entirely sure how Columbus wants to fit Kulemin in there, but if it's a simple swap of one of the other 3 assets I make the trade.
 
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

So, the new "Antropov, Colaiacovo and a 1st" for Nash?

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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.

Kulemin, Kadri and Schenn was the suggestion, to which I agreed.

But I'm also with you here, Buck.  If Kulemin is in addition, another asset has to be coming back from them.
 
#1PilarFan said:
I've kind of avoided throwing my opinion out there on Rick Nash, but do we really need a winger more than we need a centre, a defenseman or a reliable goaltender? Shouldn't Burke use the assets he has on different areas?

What I'd love to see is us swinging a deal for Nash and then getting Ryan Miller.  Yes one can only dream.
 
Corn Flake said:
Richards, Carter, Luongo, Thronton .. yep it is slim pickings for sure.  The problem with Nash is what has he really accomplished?

Personally? Six 30 goal seasons, two 40 goal seasons, a Richard trophy and a gold medal. I'm not going to hold the fact that Columbus has sucked in his time there against him.

Corn Flake said:
Richards would be the best comparable since nobody is nuts enough to do what Boston did.  So a top end prospect, very good winger and a 2nd round pick.  I think that is pretty much fair for Nash too.  The key being that trade involved 1 top prospect and not 2.

Richards might be the best comparable as a player but I'm not sure the situations are all that comparable. Philly was a more motivated seller because of their desire to free up cap room and because they seemed to genuinely want to go in another direction.

I don't get the same sense from Columbus. I think trading Nash is something they'll only do if they're absolutely sure they're getting enough to be better without him going forward. That'll increase what they're looking for in return even if it doesn't increase his value to an outside observer.
 
Champ Kind said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.

Kulemin, Kadri and Schenn was the suggestion, to which I agreed.

But I'm also with you here, Buck.  If Kulemin is in addition, another asset has to be coming back from them.

Why are we even getting a 3rd round pick back?  How about we drop that 3rd round pick and include some lesser prospect like Mueller or something.
 
jonlleafs said:
Champ Kind said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Saint Nik said:
McLeaf said:
Rumour from fan590 is the Leafs have offered

Kadri, Schenn, and a 1st for Nash and a 3rd

Bluejackets want Kulemin in the deal

That's just a ton to give up. You could probably talk me into Kulemin + two of the other assets but all three strikes me as a pretty significant overpay.

If it's Kulemin in addition, I'd balk.  If it's Kulemin and you can talk them out of the 1st, I'd do it.  Quickly.

Kulemin, Kadri and Schenn was the suggestion, to which I agreed.

But I'm also with you here, Buck.  If Kulemin is in addition, another asset has to be coming back from them.

Why are we even getting a 3rd round pick back?  How about we drop that 3rd round pick and include some lesser prospect like Mueller or something.

I'm guessing the 3rd is for negotiating purposes only, if this rumor is even remotely legit.
 
Oh man, all the Gardiner Gardiner Gardiner talk is making me dizzy.

Why is he amazing all of a sudden? Leaf fans have the memory of the family dog. 2 Seasons ago it was Schenn Schenn Schenn and how he'll be an amazing player and we cant part with him nomatter what. Now hes part of every trade proposal on the site.

Gardiner has played one partial season in the NHL and is doing pretty well. Fine. But debating whether or not you trade someone who could be a great player some day for someone who IS a great player now is foolish. I make that trade in a nanosecond.

In 2 years Gardiner could have fallen off the radar and be an afterthought. In 2 years, Rick Nash is still going to be one of the top fowards in the NHL.

As for the fan590 rumor, Kadri Schenn and a 1st but they want Kulemin, well keep the 1st and throw in Kulemin. I think thats an expensive, but fair shake for Nash. Call me crazy. Or reasonable, whichever.
 
Mack674 said:
Oh man, all the Gardiner Gardiner Gardiner talk is making me dizzy.

Why is he amazing all of a sudden? Leaf fans have the memory of the family dog. 2 Seasons ago it was Schenn Schenn Schenn and how he'll be an amazing player and we cant part with him nomatter what. Now hes part of every trade proposal on the site.

Gardiner has played one partial season in the NHL and is doing pretty well. Fine. But debating whether or not you trade someone who could be a great player some day for someone who IS a great player now is foolish. I make that trade in a nanosecond.

In 2 years Gardiner could have fallen off the radar and be an afterthought. In 2 years, Rick Nash is still going to be one of the top fowards in the NHL.

As for the fan590 rumor, Kadri Schenn and a 1st but they want Kulemin, well keep the 1st and throw in Kulemin. I think thats an expensive, but fair shake for Nash. Call me crazy. Or reasonable, whichever.

I don't think you can use Schenn's development (or lack thereof) as a case against Gardiner, to be completely honest. They're two VERY different defenseman based on their style of play.
 

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