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Rick Nash potentially available

BlueWhiteBlood said:
You were quietly really hoping for Nash weren't you?

Not especially. Certainly not if it meant I had to pay attention to the trade deadline right up until 3 pm. I've got Whiskey Sours, a ukulele and a hammock that need seeing to.
- Brian Burke and Nik
 
Saint Nik said:
BlueWhiteBlood said:
You were quietly really hoping for Nash weren't you?

Not especially. Certainly not if it meant I had to pay attention to the trade deadline right up until 3 pm. I've got Whiskey Sours, a ukulele and a hammock that need seeing to.
- Brian Burke and Nik

Sounds just like John Daly while he was golfing.
 
DarrenDreger: Don't know details, but indications are NYR made a mammoth offer for Rick Nash today and CBJ declined.  #tradecentre
 
bustaheims said:
Well, looks like we have something to discuss leading up to the draft. :-\

Great. Four more months of discussing Nash to Toronto, only to have Sather pluck him out of Columbus at the draft.  >:(
 
bustaheims said:
DarrenDreger: Don't know details, but indications are NYR made a mammoth offer for Rick Nash today and CBJ declined.  #tradecentre

So our fragile flowers on this team played teh suck cause of the trade rumors.

NYR where mixed in the Nash rumors till the end and they manage to be fine.
 
Howson revealed after the deadline that it was actually Nash who requested a trade out of Columbus:

"With respect to Rick Nash, he approached us and asked us to consider trading him. We agreed to accommodate his request as long as we could get a deal that would provide us with cornerstone pieces to help us to compete for a Stanley Cup championship in the coming years. It did not happen by 3 o'clock today. This is too important to our franchise and our fans to do a deal that is not in our best interests."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/scott-howson-tosses-rick-nash-under-c-bus-223153998.html
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Howson revealed after the deadline that it was actually Nash who requested a trade out of Columbus:

"With respect to Rick Nash, he approached us and asked us to consider trading him. We agreed to accommodate his request as long as we could get a deal that would provide us with cornerstone pieces to help us to compete for a Stanley Cup championship in the coming years. It did not happen by 3 o'clock today. This is too important to our franchise and our fans to do a deal that is not in our best interests."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/scott-howson-tosses-rick-nash-under-c-bus-223153998.html

Which to me decreases his value, no? I mean sure, Rick Nash is a good guy and will not tank his games, but a player with a specific list that wants out can't make it too easy on Howsen to get full value. Howsen should have just kept that quiet IMO.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Howson revealed after the deadline that it was actually Nash who requested a trade out of Columbus:

"With respect to Rick Nash, he approached us and asked us to consider trading him. We agreed to accommodate his request as long as we could get a deal that would provide us with cornerstone pieces to help us to compete for a Stanley Cup championship in the coming years. It did not happen by 3 o'clock today. This is too important to our franchise and our fans to do a deal that is not in our best interests."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/scott-howson-tosses-rick-nash-under-c-bus-223153998.html

Which to me decreases his value, no? I mean sure, Rick Nash is a good guy and will not tank his games, but a player with a specific list that wants out can't make it too easy on Howsen to get full value. Howsen should have just kept that quiet IMO.

that's why this seems far more about being vindictive than it does about offering up the truth.  I guess what Howsen is hoping for is that Nash will now feel the pressure to expand his list of possible trading partners.  Which in some ways you kind of feel like Nash should have done..considering he's the one who wants out.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Which to me decreases his value, no? I mean sure, Rick Nash is a good guy and will not tank his games, but a player with a specific list that wants out can't make it too easy on Howsen to get full value. Howsen should have just kept that quiet IMO.

In theory, but, it also doesn't really sound like Nash was particularly adamant about being moved. It seems more like he'd prefer to be dealt, but, isn't insisting on it.
 
bustaheims said:
In theory, but, it also doesn't really sound like Nash was particularly adamant about being moved. It seems more like he'd prefer to be dealt, but, isn't insisting on it.

Yeah, I'm certainly no trying to imply that he's Danny Heatley, because he's far from it, but maybe Howsen probably should have just said that there wasn't a trade there. I understand why he did it, as it always seemed kind of funny that you'd want to trade a top player that is still young enough to build around. Maybe he just thought that the fans needed a bit of background.
 
crazyperfectdevil said:
that's why this seems far more about being vindictive than it does about offering up the truth.  I guess what Howsen is hoping for is that Nash will now feel the pressure to expand his list of possible trading partners.  Which in some ways you kind of feel like Nash should have done..considering he's the one who wants out.

Yeah, maybe. But if I had already signed a big deal, I'd certainly want to have a lot of say in where I spend the rest of that contract, he has 7 years left on that deal.
 
I dont know, I remember during todays broadcast it was reported (Dreger maybe?) that Nash was emotionally exhausted and frustrated from the whole process and was pushing his agent or management to get a deal done.

To me, that sounds like a guy that wants out but doesn't want to be a drama queen about it.

I can't really blame him, Columbus is a disaster and how long is he expected to play there in a failing team? 10 years? Forever?

Then again he was slated to be a UFA and guess what, hes made his own bed here.
Shouldn't have signed that contract, Rick.
 
Mack674 said:
Then again he was slated to be a UFA and guess what, hes made his own bed here.
Shouldn't have signed that contract, Rick.

I do agree with that, he did make his own bed. Maybe that speaks to his character a bit, he did want to give the benefit of the doubt to the franchise to build around him. He just made the wrong choice I think.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Howson revealed after the deadline that it was actually Nash who requested a trade out of Columbus:

"With respect to Rick Nash, he approached us and asked us to consider trading him. We agreed to accommodate his request as long as we could get a deal that would provide us with cornerstone pieces to help us to compete for a Stanley Cup championship in the coming years. It did not happen by 3 o'clock today. This is too important to our franchise and our fans to do a deal that is not in our best interests."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/scott-howson-tosses-rick-nash-under-c-bus-223153998.html

Which to me decreases his value, no? I mean sure, Rick Nash is a good guy and will not tank his games, but a player with a specific list that wants out can't make it too easy on Howsen to get full value. Howsen should have just kept that quiet IMO.

A whole lot of sour grapes going on in this situation but Howsen is not going to come out the good guy no matter what after saying that.

Dreger said the price for Nash actually went up yesterday when the Rangers came back to the table. The Rangers apparently said they offered far more for Nash than they should have ever been comfortable with, and then the price got even higher.  Howsen is either screwing with everyone and had no intent on dealing him unless he got some ridiculous offer that the world would credit him for fleecing the other team, or has no idea how to negotiate.  Probably both.
 
Corn Flake said:
A whole lot of sour grapes going on in this situation but Howsen is not going to come out the good guy no matter what after saying that.

Dreger said the price for Nash actually went up yesterday when the Rangers came back to the table. The Rangers apparently said they offered far more for Nash than they should have ever been comfortable with, and then the price got even higher.  Howsen is either screwing with everyone and had no intent on dealing him unless he got some ridiculous offer that the world would credit him for fleecing the other team, or has no idea how to negotiate.  Probably both.

It will be interesting at the draft, but I wonder if the Rangers come back to the table or not? Teams will certainly have the time to devise a plan between now and the draft, which is ultimately when I think he gets traded.
 
There's little chance Howsen is likely to win such a trade.

I'm in the camp that questions whether he can do better than whatever he got offered yesterday. UFAs Parise & Semin are not as good as Nash but all they'll cost this summer is similar money - no young talent cost.

Yesterday was a time when there were few sellers and some desperate GMs. I don't see the summer as being a better time to move Nash. I also wonder about the deadline next year while the CBA is being haggled (which I think has depressed deals starting last year and constricted the UFA market).

Nash turns 28 in June. He's only got a few prime/peak years left. Some GM might get stupid but I suspect there will be real limits on how stupid.
 
Corn Flake said:
BlueWhiteBlood said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Howson revealed after the deadline that it was actually Nash who requested a trade out of Columbus:

"With respect to Rick Nash, he approached us and asked us to consider trading him. We agreed to accommodate his request as long as we could get a deal that would provide us with cornerstone pieces to help us to compete for a Stanley Cup championship in the coming years. It did not happen by 3 o'clock today. This is too important to our franchise and our fans to do a deal that is not in our best interests."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/scott-howson-tosses-rick-nash-under-c-bus-223153998.html

Which to me decreases his value, no? I mean sure, Rick Nash is a good guy and will not tank his games, but a player with a specific list that wants out can't make it too easy on Howsen to get full value. Howsen should have just kept that quiet IMO.

A whole lot of sour grapes going on in this situation but Howsen is not going to come out the good guy no matter what after saying that.

Dreger said the price for Nash actually went up yesterday when the Rangers came back to the table. The Rangers apparently said they offered far more for Nash than they should have ever been comfortable with, and then the price got even higher.  Howsen is either screwing with everyone and had no intent on dealing him unless he got some ridiculous offer that the world would credit him for fleecing the other team, or has no idea how to negotiate.  Probably both.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ9EJIvi8PU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
lc9 said:
Saint Nik said:
BlueWhiteBlood said:
You were quietly really hoping for Nash weren't you?

Not especially. Certainly not if it meant I had to pay attention to the trade deadline right up until 3 pm. I've got Whiskey Sours, a ukulele and a hammock that need seeing to.
- Brian Burke and Nik

Sounds just like John Daly while he was golfing.

...minus a fiddle...  ;D 
 

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