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Rick Nash potentially available

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If that was CBJ's counteroffer then it's obvious that they wanted the moon and sixpence or nothing.  Which you can't blame them.  Nash is the face of the franchise and dealing him, while it may be in the best long-term interests of the team, is a big fat admission of multiyear failure.  Although the fanbase is no doubt already aware of that.

Columbus is trying to make up for 10 years of bad drafting with 1 trade.
 
Zee said:
He must be hanging around Doug MacLean who would willingly give up any package of players for Nash including Kessel and Lupul.

He wants the receiving team to trade so much they end up with Nash and nothing else... in other words, exactly like what the Blue Jackets have had the past decade.
 
Corn Flake said:
Zee said:
He must be hanging around Doug MacLean who would willingly give up any package of players for Nash including Kessel and Lupul.

He wants the receiving team to trade so much they end up with Nash and nothing else... in other words, exactly like what the Blue Jackets have had the past decade.

The funny thing about this is that I don't think Rick Nash is worth that much. People can talk about all they want about linemates and whatnot. Sundin was bereft of linemates and still managed to be a PPG pretty much all through his career in the clutch and grab era. I don't view Rick Nash as an elite talent when you have kids like Nugent Hopkins, Jeff Skinner et al. already surpassing him in terms of skill and talent.
 
Why doesn't Cherry rip Nash for signing an extension in an American city like Columbus as opposed to becoming a free agent and signing with the Leafs?
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If that was CBJ's counteroffer then it's obvious that they wanted the moon and sixpence or nothing.  Which you can't blame them.  Nash is the face of the franchise and dealing him, while it may be in the best long-term interests of the team, is a big fat admission of multiyear failure.  Although the fanbase is no doubt already aware of that.

I'd agree except, I mean, what's the point in the entire exercise? If the only thing you're willing to trade Rick Nash for is something that no team in their right mind would offer, how does it help Rick Nash, the team or its fans to engage in all of the speculation and rumours?
 
Zee said:
Why doesn't Cherry rip Nash for signing an extension in an American city like Columbus as opposed to becoming a free agent and signing with the Leafs?

He is too busy yelling at clouds for not being Ontario enough.
 
Erndog said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If that was CBJ's counteroffer then it's obvious that they wanted the moon and sixpence or nothing.  Which you can't blame them.  Nash is the face of the franchise and dealing him, while it may be in the best long-term interests of the team, is a big fat admission of multiyear failure.  Although the fanbase is no doubt already aware of that.

Columbus is trying to make up for 10 years of bad drafting with 1 trade.

Sort of, yeah. Howson is barely clinging to his job, so he knew he had to hit an absolute homerun here in order to save it, and, in the process, only did himself more harm.
 
bustaheims said:
Erndog said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If that was CBJ's counteroffer then it's obvious that they wanted the moon and sixpence or nothing.  Which you can't blame them.  Nash is the face of the franchise and dealing him, while it may be in the best long-term interests of the team, is a big fat admission of multiyear failure.  Although the fanbase is no doubt already aware of that.

Columbus is trying to make up for 10 years of bad drafting with 1 trade.

Sort of, yeah. Howson is barely clinging to his job, so he knew he had to hit an absolute homerun here in order to save it, and, in the process, only did himself more harm.

I concur. He's acting like he's got Wayne Gretzky there. He's set the bar so high, that anything less will come across like caving in. But he's not going to get his asking price, so the situation will deteriorate until he's forced to cave anyway.
 
Boston Leaf said:
I hope the leafs walk far away from this dude

I totally agree.  I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs all that much on the ice, and, his contract sure to hell won't help the Leafs at all.
 
Al14 said:
Boston Leaf said:
I hope the leafs walk far away from this dude

I totally agree.  I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs all that much on the ice, and, his contract sure to hell won't help the Leafs at all.

Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.
 
Champ Kind said:
Al14 said:
Boston Leaf said:
I hope the leafs walk far away from this dude

I totally agree.  I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs all that much on the ice, and, his contract sure to hell won't help the Leafs at all.

Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

I said "all that much".  He won't vault the Leafs into being a true cup contender all by himself.  If he could, then why is CBJ sooooo bad.  They even had Carter for a short time and nothing really got any better.  Nash is a very good complimentary player, but, he's not a franchise player even though he is paid like one.

I'd love for Nash to prove me wrong, if and when he gets traded to the Leafs. However, I think we Leaf fans will regret the players we give up for him and we will piss and moan about his contract and the cap space it ties up ad nauseum.

Just MHO.
 
Champ Kind said:
Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

That all depends on the talent cost to acquire him. It's likely the cost to acquire would mean that acquiring Nash wouldn't help the Leafs be a better team on the ice than they are right now.
 
bustaheims said:
Champ Kind said:
Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

That all depends on the talent cost to acquire him. It's likely the cost to acquire would mean that acquiring Nash wouldn't help the Leafs be a better team on the ice than they are right now.

Exactly my point!
 
Al14 said:
bustaheims said:
Champ Kind said:
Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

That all depends on the talent cost to acquire him. It's likely the cost to acquire would mean that acquiring Nash wouldn't help the Leafs be a better team on the ice than they are right now.

Exactly my point!

That's entirely true, and I agree with both of your statements.  But Al14's first statement was "I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs on the ice all that much".  That's what I disagree with.  Adding a player of Nash's calibre can't help but improve the team, notwithstanding what might have to be subtracted to acquire him.
 
Champ Kind said:
Al14 said:
bustaheims said:
Champ Kind said:
Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

That all depends on the talent cost to acquire him. It's likely the cost to acquire would mean that acquiring Nash wouldn't help the Leafs be a better team on the ice than they are right now.

Exactly my point!

That's entirely true, and I agree with both of your statements.  But Al14's first statement was "I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs on the ice all that much".  That's what I disagree with.  Adding a player of Nash's calibre can't help but improve the team, notwithstanding what might have to be subtracted to acquire him.

Rick Nash is a very good piece to add to any hockey team, however, the many pieces you may have to give up conteracts the benefits that Nash brings.

If we could just sign him without losing any assets, that would make all the difference.

At this point, I don't think the Leafs are a deep enough of a team to get Nash and be all that more competative with him.  No disrespect to Nash intended! Just MHO.
 
Al14 said:
Champ Kind said:
Al14 said:
bustaheims said:
Champ Kind said:
Argue his contract all you want, but this statement is absurd.

That all depends on the talent cost to acquire him. It's likely the cost to acquire would mean that acquiring Nash wouldn't help the Leafs be a better team on the ice than they are right now.

Exactly my point!

That's entirely true, and I agree with both of your statements.  But Al14's first statement was "I don't think he'll be able to help the Leafs on the ice all that much".  That's what I disagree with.  Adding a player of Nash's calibre can't help but improve the team, notwithstanding what might have to be subtracted to acquire him.

Rick Nash is a very good piece to add to any hockey team, however, the many pieces you may have to give up conteracts the benefits that Nash brings.

If we could just sign him without losing any assets, that would make all the difference.

At this point, I don't think the Leafs are a deep enough of a team to get Nash and be all that more competative with him.  No disrespect to Nash intended! Just MHO.

It doesn't matter what it costs to bring him in, Nash is not at all playing up to his contract. He simply isn't worth the money. There's no reason to use Rick Nash's contract as the rope for a cap noose.
 
Nash talks heating up again, and The Leafs may still be involved...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436
 
RedLeaf said:
Nash talks heating up again, and The Leafs may still be involved...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436

"According to the Columbus Dispatch..."

So Scott Howson called up the Dispatch with an anonymous tip that multiple teams were inquiring about Nash?  Trying to get interest / drive price up?  Nice try Howson...
 
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