TOP 5 PICK!!!

[palmateer]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick? Schenn alone clearly would not make this happen. Schenn + Reimer might be close, though we might need to add a cherry on top of that. Tell you what, though: This is one scenario where I might be amenable to parting ways with Dion -- especially if Burke can reel in Justin Schultz.

This scenario lands both Yakupov AND another high end talent in the draft (would be great to reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk). Our depth chart on D at that point would consist of Gunnarsson, Liles, Schenn, Gardiner, Schultz, Franson, Komisarek, and Holzer (and maybe Murray if Galchenyuk's gone by the time #5 pick comes up).

Creates some interesting scenarios, for sure.

 

[maplesyrup]

Schenn + Reimer? No, not close at all. Gardiner, Kadri or Colborne, this years 2nd and next years 1st is probably a much, much closer package that Edmonton would want to take back if our #5 wasn't included I should think. 

Edit: Keeping Yakupov and Galchenyuk together as Leafs does sound rather appealing. 

 

[Corn Flake]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick? Schenn alone clearly would not make this happen. Schenn + Reimer might be close, though we might need to add a cherry on top of that. Tell you what, though: This is one scenario where I might be amenable to parting ways with Dion -- especially if Burke can reel in Justin Schultz.

This scenario lands both Yakupov AND another high end talent in the draft (would be great to reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk). Our depth chart on D at that point would consist of Gunnarsson, Liles, Schenn, Gardiner, Schultz, Franson, Komisarek, and Holzer (and maybe Murray if Galchenyuk's gone by the time #5 pick comes up).

Creates some interesting scenarios, for sure.

welcome to the board.

While that would be kind of a "dream" scenario, and maybe this draft there is more of a chance than others to trade up/in to 1st overall, I don't think landing two picks is in the cards unless Gardiner's name comes into play, and then it isn't worth it at all. 

This won't happen either, but Burke does have a chance to make some wholesale changes to the lineup if he can revisit some of those 4-5 trades for his players for 1st rounders in return, as well as moving Reimer.  He could make some of those moves, load up on all kinds of picks and use them to move up, but he seems to have a bit too much faith in this team and probably won't blow that big of a hole in the team.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick? Schenn alone clearly would not make this happen. Schenn + Reimer might be close, though we might need to add a cherry on top of that. Tell you what, though: This is one scenario where I might be amenable to parting ways with Dion -- especially if Burke can reel in Justin Schultz.

This scenario lands both Yakupov AND another high end talent in the draft (would be great to reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk). Our depth chart on D at that point would consist of Gunnarsson, Liles, Schenn, Gardiner, Schultz, Franson, Komisarek, and Holzer (and maybe Murray if Galchenyuk's gone by the time #5 pick comes up).

Creates some interesting scenarios, for sure.

While keeping those two young kids together would be great, but who would eat Phaneuf's minutes? I'd consider a bigger trade in order to leave Phaneuf out of the deal, we'd only have to find another top pairing defenseman.

 

[ZBBM]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick? Schenn alone clearly would not make this happen. Schenn + Reimer might be close, though we might need to add a cherry on top of that. Tell you what, though: This is one scenario where I might be amenable to parting ways with Dion -- especially if Burke can reel in Justin Schultz.

This scenario lands both Yakupov AND another high end talent in the draft (would be great to reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk). Our depth chart on D at that point would consist of Gunnarsson, Liles, Schenn, Gardiner, Schultz, Franson, Komisarek, and Holzer (and maybe Murray if Galchenyuk's gone by the time #5 pick comes up).

Creates some interesting scenarios, for sure.

While keeping those two young kids together would be great, but who would eat Phaneuf's minutes? I'd consider a bigger trade in order to leave Phaneuf out of the deal, we'd only have to find another top pairing defenseman.

Gunnarsson.  Or somebody we get in trade.  Phaneuf is hardly untouchable.

And neither is Gardiner, BTW.  If EDM wanted him and some lesser piece for the #1, I'd give it a good long look.  Schenn was untouchable right after he was drafted; now he's not.  There's no guarantee at all that Gardiner will be a superstar, good as he looks now.  Yakupov, OTOH, looks like a pretty safe bet to be a good player in the league for years.  I'd take that chance.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Gunnarsson.  Or somebody we get in trade.  Phaneuf is hardly untouchable.

I didn't say untouchable, only that I'd prefer to keep Phaneuf.

 

[Kin]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick?

So much that every fan of the Edmonton Oilers would have to look at the package and say "Yeah, the #1 pick is great and all but there's just no way you can turn that down".

Quite frankly, I don't think the Leafs have that.

 

[bustaheims]

Quite frankly, I don't think the Leafs have that.

Oh, they do, but it's assets that are rooted deep in the "not to be traded for a draft pick" part of the landscape.

 

[Kin]

Oh, they do, but it's assets that are rooted deep in the "not to be traded for a draft pick" part of the landscape.

I'm not so sure. Keep in mind that the only reason that we're talking about the Oilers trading the #1 pick is because adding a player as talented as Yakupov to the group of young forwards the Oilers have strikes a lot of people as being unnecessary. You can package Kadri and Colborne and whoever and it's the same thing to a smaller degree. Yeah, Gardiner's a good player with value but outside of immediacy I don't know he's worth more than Murray.

Even those three, and let's say those are the three highest value assets the Leafs have, would probably make me as the Oilers GM just draft Yakupov and auction him to someone else. Even if you replace Colborne with Kessel, to move into kind of stupid territory...I mean, I don't think Kessel adds what they're looking for.

 

[palmateer]

Just a thought: What would it take to acquire the #1 pick from the Oilers WITHOUT sacrificing the #5 pick? Schenn alone clearly would not make this happen. Schenn + Reimer might be close, though we might need to add a cherry on top of that. Tell you what, though: This is one scenario where I might be amenable to parting ways with Dion -- especially if Burke can reel in Justin Schultz.

This scenario lands both Yakupov AND another high end talent in the draft (would be great to reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk). Our depth chart on D at that point would consist of Gunnarsson, Liles, Schenn, Gardiner, Schultz, Franson, Komisarek, and Holzer (and maybe Murray if Galchenyuk's gone by the time #5 pick comes up).

Creates some interesting scenarios, for sure.

welcome to the board.

While that would be kind of a "dream" scenario, and maybe this draft there is more of a chance than others to trade up/in to 1st overall, I don't think landing two picks is in the cards unless Gardiner's name comes into play, and then it isn't worth it at all. 

This won't happen either, but Burke does have a chance to make some wholesale changes to the lineup if he can revisit some of those 4-5 trades for his players for 1st rounders in return, as well as moving Reimer.  He could make some of those moves, load up on all kinds of picks and use them to move up, but he seems to have a bit too much faith in this team and probably won't blow that big of a hole in the team.

Do you really think he has that much faith in this team? He and Nonis are already talking about trades as the route to take in order to add the assets they need (and given the way the FA market is shaping up, who can blame them). We're also talking about a guy that once parlayed Bryan McCabe into one of the Sedins.

I won't say that nailing the #1 pick might be a pipe dream; I'll instead say that it is most likely a pipe dream. But Burke must also be getting to that point where he knows he will need to think outside the box on draft day again.

 

[The Red Polar Bear]

The only way i can see us ending up with #1 + #5 would be moving Schenn+ to NYI for #4, then moving #4+ for the #1.

Even then, the pluses are gonna be hefty.

 

[maplesyrup]

Aster watching TSN's coverage of the combine, I'd be over the moon with Forsberg. I'm not sure exactly at this point who "my guy" is or if I'll have one but DAMN, I really like this kid.

 

[Bender]

Aster watching TSN's coverage of the combine, I'd be over the moon with Forsberg. I'm not sure exactly at this point who "my guy" is or if I'll have one but DAMN, I really like this kid.

The more I read the more I feel this is one giant wildcard draft outside of the top 3.

 

[maplesyrup]

I just loved his interview. Says his two favourite players are Getzlaf and Perry... Wants to play like them. I immediatly thought - "how fitting."  8)

 

[bustaheims]

Aster watching TSN's coverage of the combine, I'd be over the moon with Forsberg. I'm not sure exactly at this point who "my guy" is or if I'll have one but DAMN, I really like this kid.

He's been my #1 choice (after Yakupov, of course) for a while.

 

[maplesyrup]

He's been my #1 choice (after Yakupov, of course) for a while.

In addition to his comments about Getzlaf and Perry which (BTW) I found really interesting coming from a Swede, I found him to be rather well spoken for such a young man and he exuded intelligence (for want of a better word.) - Seems like a Burke kind of player but we'll see I guess.

Edit: Maybe "maturity" was the word I was looking for...  :-\

 

[#1PilarFan]

He's been my #1 choice (after Yakupov, of course) for a while.

In addition to his comments about Getzlaf and Perry which (BTW) I found really interesting coming from a Swede, I found him to be rather well spoken for such a young man and he exuded intelligence (for want of a better word.) - Seems like a Burke kind of player but we'll see I guess.

Edit: Maybe "marurity" was the word I was looking for...  :-\

I'm almost certain it wasn't. 

 

[maplesyrup]

I'm almost certain it wasn't. 

lol... fixed.

 

[Brian Glennie]

I just watched the Cherry interview with the first-rounders and if Brian Burke is still checking into this board may I suggest, kind sir, that you trade down.

 

[ZBBM]

I just watched the Cherry interview with the first-rounders and if Brian Burke is still checking into this board may I suggest, kind sir, that you trade down.

Why?  You didn't like their answers?