TOP 5 PICK!!!

[Corn Flake]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

 

[Champ Kind]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

 

[Corn Flake]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

Forsberg or Galchenyuk, IMO, is who they might have their mind's set on.  Would probably be best to move up to make sure you get one of those two.  Neither will likely be there at #5.

Another thought would be considering what Howsen is looking for (help, now).. the idea of trading for the #2 pick outright is possible. 

 

[Redleaf]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

Forsberg or Galchenyuk, IMO, is who they might have their mind's set on.  Would probably be best to move up to make sure you get one of those two.  Neither will likely be there at #5.

Another thought would be considering what Howsen is looking for (help, now).. the idea of trading for the #2 pick outright is possible.

That would jive with that crazy report the Leafs want 2 picks in the top 5.

 

[Champ Kind]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

Forsberg or Galchenyuk, IMO, is who they might have their mind's set on.  Would probably be best to move up to make sure you get one of those two.  Neither will likely be there at #5.

Another thought would be considering what Howsen is looking for (help, now).. the idea of trading for the #2 pick outright is possible.

That would jive with that crazy report the Leafs want 2 picks in the top 5.

I have trouble with that report.  I mean, who wouldn't want two top 5 picks?  But I think the consensus is that the Leafs need to start competing, like, yesterday, so how does trading current assets for another Top 5 pick help them toward this objective?

 

[Redleaf]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

Forsberg or Galchenyuk, IMO, is who they might have their mind's set on.  Would probably be best to move up to make sure you get one of those two.  Neither will likely be there at #5.

Another thought would be considering what Howsen is looking for (help, now).. the idea of trading for the #2 pick outright is possible.

That would jive with that crazy report the Leafs want 2 picks in the top 5.

I have trouble with that report.  I mean, who wouldn't want two top 5 picks?  But I think the consensus is that the Leafs need to start competing, like, yesterday, so how does trading current assets for another Top 5 pick help them toward this objective?

Alright. Let's talk crazy here..

For some reason Dreger was reporting Yesterday that Kessel may not be happy in Toronto.

So....

Kessel, Schenn, Scrivens, and our 5th for Nash and the 2nd overall.
Pretty crazy eh?

 

[Champ Kind]

Howsen: "We've certainly listened to people. We've had a couple of expressions of interest on the pick in terms of moving down," Howson told The Morning Show on Sportsnet 960 The Fan on Thursday. "We wouldn't want to move too far down so we'll just see how it plays out next week. Traditionally, and if history repeats itself, teams get a little more serious about exchanging picks as we get closer to the draft on the draft floor."

Down, but not too far down... #2 for #5 plus a 2nd rounder.

Nice post, Corn.  Since we're dealing with hypotheticals, who in your estimation would the Leafs take with the 2'nd overall?  I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm not sure moving up to #2 is necessary, unless the Leafs have their hearst set on a specific player not named Yakupov.  From my Bob Ueker vantage point, seems like there are really good players to be had between 2 - 6, so there may not be a need for Burke to move up.

Forsberg or Galchenyuk, IMO, is who they might have their mind's set on.  Would probably be best to move up to make sure you get one of those two.  Neither will likely be there at #5.

Another thought would be considering what Howsen is looking for (help, now).. the idea of trading for the #2 pick outright is possible.

I don't pretend to have the insight the Leafs and their scouts have, so you're likely right that some players have percolated to the top of the Leafs wish list. 

On a related note, how much do you think teams share with one another beforehand?  I mean, it made for great TV when Burke told Murray that they're taking Kadri, but don't you think that the Leafs, at #5, go into the draft with eyes wide open?  They've got to have a general sense of what each team might do.  Of course, if there's a player the Leafs want then they shouldn't leave it to chance, but I would assume the draft day script is, to some degree, written before they enter the Consol Energy Centre on the 22'nd.

 

[Champ Kind]

Alright. Let's talk crazy here..

For some reason Dreger was reporting Yesterday that Kessel may not be happy in Toronto.

So....

Kessel, Schenn, Scrivens, and our 2nd for Nash and the 2nd overall.
Pretty crazy eh?
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WILD AND CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But there's no way that deal makes sense.  Even if you assume Kessel= Nash (which I, like Sarge, don't agree with), that means the 2'nd overall pick = Schenn, Scrivens and the 35'th pick.

ALthough for a boring mid-June day, I like the spice.

 

[Big Daddy]

My hope would be that we can secure Schultz allowing us to draft a forward.  So looking at the Top 5 forwards then.  Since 8 of the Top 12 are defenceman there isn't many forwards. Of the 5 forwards you have two russians, an american, a guy from the czech republic and some 6'2 forward from Markham.  Take the Canadian Brian. This team needs big strong homegrown kids who love the Toronto Maple Leafs. 

 

[Redleaf]

Alright. Let's talk crazy here..

For some reason Dreger was reporting Yesterday that Kessel may not be happy in Toronto.

So....

Kessel, Schenn, Scrivens, and our 2nd for Nash and the 2nd overall.
Pretty crazy eh?

WILD AND CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But there's no way that deal makes sense.  Even if you assume Kessel= Nash (which I, like Sarge, don't agree with), that means the 2'nd overall pick = Schenn, Scrivens and the 35'th pick.

ALthough for a boring mid-June day, I like the spice.
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Yeah. I changed it to include our 5th instead of our 2nd rounder to even out the deal a bit better. But it's still out there.

 

[LeafsInSeven]

Let's make it a big deal with Columbus. They need a big change, we need a big change:

Kessel, Schenn, Frattin, 2012 2nd round pick

for

Nash, 2nd overall, Colton Gillies

 

[Redleaf]

Let's make it a big deal with Columbus. They need a big change, we need a big change:

Kessel, Schenn, Frattin, 2012 2nd round pick

for

Nash, 2nd overall, Colton Gillies

Like I said, you probably need to throw our 5th back at them in this sort of deal. Not very likely to happen regardless, but I've seen stranger things...

The timing of that 'Kessel may not be happy here' Dreger report was a little odd.

BTW. The Nash talks have heated up again, and apparently the Leafs may still be involved..  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436

 

[Bullfrog]

My hope would be that we can secure Schultz allowing us to draft a forward.  So looking at the Top 5 forwards then.  Since 8 of the Top 12 are defenceman there isn't many forwards. Of the 5 forwards you have two russians, an american, a guy from the czech republic and some 6'2 forward from Markham.  Take the Canadian Brian. This team needs big strong homegrown kids who love the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Why does this team need homegrown kids who love the Maple Leafs?

This team needs talent.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

My hope would be that we can secure Schultz allowing us to draft a forward.  So looking at the Top 5 forwards then.  Since 8 of the Top 12 are defenceman there isn't many forwards. Of the 5 forwards you have two russians, an american, a guy from the czech republic and some 6'2 forward from Markham.  Take the Canadian Brian. This team needs big strong homegrown kids who love the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Why does this team need homegrown kids who love the Maple Leafs?

This team needs talent.

But look at all the LA natives that just won the Cup with the Kings, man.

 

[maplesyrup]

Why does this team need homegrown kids who love the Maple Leafs?

This team needs talent.

Yeah, somebody punch me in the face... I want to see some stars.

 

[bustaheims]

Why does this team need homegrown kids who love the Maple Leafs?

This team needs talent.

Exactly. As Burke once put it when asked about his draft strategy, I don't care about the colour of the kid's passport. This team needs to take the best talent available to them, regardless of nationality. Sure, everything else being equal, take the Canadian, but, outside of those rare cases, the only issue with nationality is whether or not the kid will run to the KHL instead, and, if we're being really honest, that's a personality issue, not a nationality issue.

 

[Corn Flake]

ie: Grabovski plays more "Canadian" than a lot of skilled Canadian centers out there. 

 

[Corn Flake]

Let's make it a big deal with Columbus. They need a big change, we need a big change:

Kessel, Schenn, Frattin, 2012 2nd round pick

for

Nash, 2nd overall, Colton Gillies

Like I said, you probably need to throw our 5th back at them in this sort of deal. Not very likely to happen regardless, but I've seen stranger things...

The timing of that 'Kessel may not be happy here' Dreger report was a little odd.

BTW. The Nash talks have heated up again, and apparently the Leafs may still be involved..  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436

if Kessel isn't feeling the love, he should go and read most of the tweets where most people would rather have Kessel than Nash.  All things considered, I am inclined to agree.  Kessel for Nash would be zero steps forward, maybe a small step back.  Trading Kessel +++ for Nash would be stupidity and GM suicide.

 

[bustaheims]

I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the this 6'2" kid from Markham, Brendan Gaunce, is, on many of the prospect rankings, a borderline 1st round pick. I'm not sure he is even one of the top 5 forwards going into the draft, and definitely not someone to draft with the 5th overall pick. If he's still around at 35 and Subban, Vasilevski and a couple of the other intriguing borderline 1st round guys are not, that's the time to take him.

 

[maplesyrup]

Kessel is younger, cheaper and a more prolific goal scorer than Nash... but I'd still rather have Nash (shoot me.) For me, it would depend what the plus(es) were.

Edited for grammar (stupid auto thingy)