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Trade Deadline

bustaheims said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Can't get the TSN stream to work here, don't know if its because I'm in the U.S. I am stuck watching Sportsnet.

You're really not missing anything.

For sure. It's absolutely awful. They're talking about commercials, coffee, ...

Dave Hodge "To get back to discussing hockey, if there's a trade today, we're betting it will include a 2nd round draft pick because they're being thrown around. What's the value of a 2nd round draft pick?"
 
KW Sluggo said:
RedLeaf said:
nutman said:
puckhog78 said:
nutman said:
So far so good. I'm liking the fact Nunis has not made a deal. we are only just testing the playoff waters, so we dont need to spend the farm on any players to try and do a push. I say we go in and let the guys get some experince, then go for it next year. also I like what we have other then we need  stay at home dman.

I agree. I'd be happy with a stay at home 6th D man that can clear the front of the net. if we were to trade Liles i'd be okay with that as well just to make room for Gardiner.

You would be ok to trade Liles? . he has been awsome in our last few games, he looks like the player he was thought to be when we got him. Imo he wouldn't be in any deal. we need to add a stay at home defenceman not get rid of our guys that have got us here. as for all the goalie talk, can you say DUH!!!!!. Our goaltending is just fine.

So, if Reimer gets hurt tomorrow night and is out for 3 months, you'd be good with Scrivens and MacIntyre facing the Bruins in the first round?

We are not likely to win the series with or without Reimer or anyone else who is available via trade.

Despite our improved play this year, there is still a talent and a playoff experience gap between us and the Bruins.

I don't think I would completely rule out beating the Bruins with Reimer between the pipes. I think the odds would certainly be better if we had a tandem of Reimer and Kiprusoff between the pipes than it would with Scrivens and MacIntyre. That's all I'm saying.
 
Nik said:
Bullfrog said:
Maybe we've been watching different players, but I think Liles is much better than Kostka. While Kostka might provide a better value, it's a backwards step in talent.

Just to clarify that's less a statement concerning my own opinion re: Liles than it is an acknowledgement that Carlyle seemed pretty content to have Kostka in the line-up and Liles in the press box for half the season.

and that seems to have changed now as Carlyle has Liles back in ahead of Kostka.
 
cw said:
For sure. It's absolutely awful. They're talking about commercials, coffee, ...

Dave Hodge "To get back to discussing hockey, if there's a trade today, we're betting it will include a 2nd round draft pick because they're being thrown around. What's the value of a 2nd round draft pick?"

I do kind of feel bad for these guys. They have to be there and they have to fill air time with something, and there's just nothing to really talk about right now. Not even a meaningless 4th liner for future considerations deal.
 
caveman said:
and that seems to have changed now as Carlyle has Liles back in ahead of Kostka.

I know. But it's still hardly an endorsement of Liles as an integral part if the line-up.
 
bustaheims said:
cw said:
For sure. It's absolutely awful. They're talking about commercials, coffee, ...

Dave Hodge "To get back to discussing hockey, if there's a trade today, we're betting it will include a 2nd round draft pick because they're being thrown around. What's the value of a 2nd round draft pick?"

I do kind of feel bad for these guys. They have to be there and they have to fill air time with something, and there's just nothing to really talk about right now. Not even a meaningless 4th liner for future considerations deal.

The clown with the Bob Mackenzie tshirt drives me up the wall.
 
So here's just a hypothetical but would people be as ok about the Leafs potentially standing pat if they had, say, 38 points instead of 44?
 
Nik said:
So here's just a hypothetical but would people be as ok about the Leafs potentially standing pat if they had, say, 38 points instead of 44?

I think I'd be more okay with it in that situation, considering, at 38 points, the odds of them missing the playoffs even if they make a deal is significantly greater. I think it you add at the deadline, it should be to help the team in the playoffs, not help the team get to the playoffs.
 
And of course Pierre McGuire now says the Kiprusoff news will kick-start Luongo to Leafs talks.  Then someone else says that the Canucks now have "leverage" LOL, ok.
 
I don't think Liles is quite delivering on his salary but I did notice that a few of our team's highlight reel plays start with him making a simple clean break-out pass, something we've had trouble getting at times. 

I was thinking that our break from our mini-slump to the current 8-game point streak started shortly after he started playing again, but then when I looked at the schedule we also had the 5-game winning streak while he was in the press box.  Add it all up and we're 12-8-2 with him and 7-4-2 without, so it's hard to say we'd miss him too much.  I think we would look for a D in return though so we would still have that depth and ability to shake up the back end.
 
Zee said:
And of course Pierre McGuire now says the Kiprusoff news will kick-start Luongo to Leafs talks.  Then someone else says that the Canucks now have "leverage" LOL, ok.

Is Pierre wearing a snitch hat?
 
bustaheims said:
The flood gates are open! We have 2 . . . waiver claims!

There's about 2 1/2 hours left before 3pm deadline ... (though a few trickle in after 3pm in terms of getting reported)

They're approaching increasing the record of the first deal reported by 2 hours ...

Pretty pathetic
 
cw said:
bustaheims said:
The flood gates are open! We have 2 . . . waiver claims!

There's about 2 1/2 hours left before 3pm deadline ... (though a few trickle in after 3pm in terms of getting reported)

They're approaching increasing the record of the first deal reported by 2 hours ...

Pretty pathetic

Yeah. They're about 24 hours behind most of the action. Hopefully that doesn't mean two days of coverage next year. :o
 
I know that this is a lockout shortened year and there were a few deals in the last few days, but things are only going to get worse next year with the new format.

7 team divisions in the West with at least 3 guaranteed spots per division plus an additional 2 spots going around.
8 teams per division in the East in the same format.  Teams are going to stand pat like mad unless they are completely out of the race by January.  I'm not exactly sure why the NHL feels that fewer deadline trades is a good thing for the sport.
 
What a difference a season makes compared to the last 10 years.  Seemed like the Leafs were trading their garbage in exchange for other garbage, hoping the players they bring in will help towards the rebuild.  This time, we're speculating as to who the Leafs may trade for to help boost the roster for a playoff run, but if the Leafs have to give up too much for any player, I would rather see the Leafs do nothing, hold on to their 1st round draft pick in the summer, and try to sign a UFA or two in the summer.

Quite frankly, I feel the pride again of being a Leaf fan, knowing each player on the team played their heart out to try to win every game, and to push for a playoff spot.  Even if the Leafs play .500 the remainder of the season, the Rangers would have to win 10 of their remaining 13 games to surpass the Leafs.
 

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