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Ukraine

https://twitter.com/amyspiro/status/1498085663786344452

https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1498018986197327877

Man, what a life this guy?s led.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/amyspiro/status/1498085663786344452

https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1498018986197327877

Man, what a life this guy?s led.

Take a look at this:  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-president/622938/

Hard to know if it is true but the narrative is that his personal plea and putting his life on the line turned the political tide against Russia in EU negotiations. 

(He put his life beyond on the line ? he is a dead man walking. Russia will kill him. It is a short matter of time.  His bravery is through the roof.)
 
Yes you have already established you stupid views in the other thread.  Leave it out of this one
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/amyspiro/status/1498085663786344452

https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1498018986197327877

Man, what a life this guy?s led.

Don't forget he played the President of Ukraine in a satirical tv series called Servant of the People lampooning political corruption; and then shortly after, ran for the presidency for real.
 
Meanwhile we are still importing a million dolla s worth of oil a day from Russia. Instead of using our own oil we help fund a war at a tune of 1 million per day
 
berserker said:
Oh no opposing views . Very Liberal of you
Let's all join hands and smoke a fatty.
This is about Ukraine, not about your own hangups about the federal government.
 
berserker said:
Oh no opposing views . Very Liberal of you
Let's all join hands and smoke a fatty.

You're just not as good a comedian as Zelensky used to be. Don't quit your day job or run for office.
 
berserker said:
Oh no opposing views . Very Liberal of you
Let's all join hands and smoke a fatty.

"Murder should be illegal"

"No, murder should be legal."

"Welp, I guess I have to accept these opposing views..."
 
Yes, it's clearly about liberal views and not your callus co-opting of a thread about a war to push your stupid politics. 
 
After being roundly criticized for their decision to let Russia continue with qualifying for the World Cup over the weekend, FIFA has reversed course and kicked them out of the tournament.

And good ol' 99 has urged the IIHF to do the same to their WJC team for the rescheduling of the World Juniors. Hopefully, they do.
 
berserker said:
So importing 1 million dollars of oil a day from
Russia is not about the Ukraine ?

I think the objection is more about your earlier inaccurate and entirely off-topic post about Trudeau than about the oil claim. Thing is, Canada(or any country) can't just fundamentally change their oil consumption in a short period of time. Contracts for alternate sources need to be negotiated and signed and, if the answer is internal, then infrastructure needs to be built to support that which likewise can't happen overnight.

If the argument is then why didn't we more aggressively pursue internal production for domestic use prior to this then we get back to the reality that climate change is a real concern and that "more oil production" (Especially from the oil sands) is not a cost-effective or environmentally sound long term solution. Or at least that debate, anyway, which exists independently of Russia's invasion.

So, no, that really isn't anything to do with the on-going invasion in Ukraine(again, not "the" Ukraine). While there is a larger discussion to be had about energy independence it is not immediately addressable and at best could be seen as an attempt to change the subject from the deadly attack on Ukrainian civilians happening at this very moment. Provided your intention is anything other than cynically using the current situation to criticize our sitting government it is neither relevant nor constructive to say nothing of displaying any actual empathy.
 
The West has completely decapitated the Russian financial system, totally.  Putin and his cronies are now threatening the nuclear option.  It's getting really concerning.  Switzerland has told the world they are siding with the West and this is a country that has always been neutral.

How can Russia back out and not lose face completely?
 
Nik said:
berserker said:
So importing 1 million dollars of oil a day from
Russia is not about the Ukraine ?

I think the objection is more about your earlier inaccurate and entirely off-topic post about Trudeau than about the oil claim. Thing is, Canada(or any country) can't just fundamentally change their oil consumption in a short period of time. Contracts for alternate sources need to be negotiated and signed and, if the answer is internal, then infrastructure needs to be built to support that which likewise can't happen overnight.

If the argument is then why didn't we more aggressively pursue internal production for domestic use prior to this then we get back to the reality that climate change is a real concern and that "more oil production" (Especially from the oil sands) is not a cost-effective or environmentally sound long term solution. Or at least that debate, anyway, which exists independently of Russia's invasion.

So, no, that really isn't anything to do with the on-going invasion in Ukraine(again, not "the" Ukraine). While there is a larger discussion to be had about energy independence it is not immediately addressable and at best could be seen as an attempt to change the subject from the deadly attack on Ukrainian civilians happening at this very moment. Provided your intention is anything other than cynically using the current situation to criticize our sitting government it is neither relevant nor constructive to say nothing of displaying any actual empathy.

Also, a ban on Russian oil would cause a protest of people that have been inconvienced by higher gas prices. 
 
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