Which Dman would you add in a trade?

[Pucken Chronic]

There's one ufa that I'd like the Leafs to get and just for his name, Clayton Stoner...

Then trade for Adam Pardy and in a coupla years we'd have McKegg, Stoner and Pardy. Add Moulson and hire Bob Beers as an assistant coach? Sorry.... got carried away.

 

[Tigger]

There's one ufa that I'd like the Leafs to get and just for his name, Clayton Stoner...

Then trade for Adam Pardy and in a coupla years we'd have McKegg, Stoner and Pardy. Add Moulson and hire Bob Beers as an assistant coach? Sorry.... got carried away.

Maybe the Leafs could steal Zelepukin from the Royals...

I don't know a lot about him from watching more than a couple games but he seems like a capable bottom pairing physical dman, all kidding aside I'd be interested to know more if the Leafs have need in the offseason, could be a relatively cheap pick up for depth.

 

[freer]

I will trade Aulie, and Kadri for Van riemsdyk

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I will trade Aulie, and Kadri for Van riemsdyk

Thanks Brian, can I get your autograph?

 

[freer]

I will trade Aulie, and Kadri for Van riemsdyk

Thanks Brian, can I get your autograph?

IMO it is the only Kadri is going to get any time in NHL on a regular basis. RW seems to think that others a better then him. I am under the impression RW does not like him much.

 

[Edeagle]

Our defense is deep, especially in the "stay at home" department. I like Schenn, but I wouldn't be too upset if they traded him for a good forward.

 

[Corn Flake]

I think Burke pretty much has no choice but to move a d-man even if he wants to keep all 7 guys he has. 

I would think the Komisarek situation is going to start becoming rather tense in the room at some point since it does seem like he is very likely the odd man out for the next while.  Play the best six or not, you can't really keep a veteran guy like that in the box forever. 

Komi either has to be the guy to go, which seems pretty unlikely, or another spot needs to be opened up.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

I think Burke pretty much has no choice but to move a d-man even if he wants to keep all 7 guys he has. 

I would think the Komisarek situation is going to start becoming rather tense in the room at some point since it does seem like he is very likely the odd man out for the next while.  Play the best six or not, you can't really keep a veteran guy like that in the box forever. 

Komi either has to be the guy to go, which seems pretty unlikely, or another spot needs to be opened up.

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

 

[Corn Flake]

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

I'd say that is a position the Leafs have more candidates for than any other. Give it max 2 seasons and I would be surprised if one of the young d-men didn't fill the role. I think Schenn is pretty close to it if he can remain consistent without the stretches of bad play. 

 

[groundskeeper willie]

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

I'd say that is a position the Leafs have more candidates for than any other. Give it max 2 seasons and I would be surprised if one of the young d-men didn't fill the role. I think Schenn is pretty close to it if he can remain consistent without the stretches of bad play.

The long list of young players to potentially fill that role is why I listed it last of the three and is of the lowest priority. That said, dmen can take an agonizingly long time to develop most of the time, and the Leafs may lose out on some opportunities in the playoffs if they just sit back and wait.

I agree Schenn should be the guy to watch for that role, which is the reason I would be hesitant to trade him to get that forward. If he can smooth out the recent troubles he has been having and reach a Seabrook-level of play, then a top four of Phaneuf, Schenn, Liles, and Gunnar may be enough.

 

[Redleaf]

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

I'd say that is a position the Leafs have more candidates for than any other. Give it max 2 seasons and I would be surprised if one of the young d-men didn't fill the role. I think Schenn is pretty close to it if he can remain consistent without the stretches of bad play.

The long list of young players to potentially fill that role is why I listed it last of the three and is of the lowest priority. That said, dmen can take an agonizingly long time to develop most of the time, and the Leafs may lose out on some opportunities in the playoffs if they just sit back and wait.

I agree Schenn should be the guy to watch for that role, which is the reason I would be hesitant to trade him to get that forward. If he can smooth out the recent troubles he has been having and reach a Seabrook-level of play, then a top four of Phaneuf, Schenn, Liles, and Gunnar may be enough.

In another thread I suggested offering up Gunnar + some prospects (Kadri?) and picks to Nashville for Suter, who would instantly become our #2 D man (maybe #1). I would also move Schenn out for JVR in some sort of package. These moves would put us in a good position for now and the not- too-distant future. I'd also trade away Connolly for picks and cap space.

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

I'd say that is a position the Leafs have more candidates for than any other. Give it max 2 seasons and I would be surprised if one of the young d-men didn't fill the role. I think Schenn is pretty close to it if he can remain consistent without the stretches of bad play.

The long list of young players to potentially fill that role is why I listed it last of the three and is of the lowest priority. That said, dmen can take an agonizingly long time to develop most of the time, and the Leafs may lose out on some opportunities in the playoffs if they just sit back and wait.

I agree Schenn should be the guy to watch for that role, which is the reason I would be hesitant to trade him to get that forward. If he can smooth out the recent troubles he has been having and reach a Seabrook-level of play, then a top four of Phaneuf, Schenn, Liles, and Gunnar may be enough.

I'd also trade away Connolly for picks and cap space.sock lint from in between the toes.

Corrected.

 

[Zee]

Can't we give Komisarek to Detroit?  They seem to like taking veteran d from us for a playoff run.  I don't even care what they give us in return.

 

[slapshot]

I don't think Komi is as untradeable as some may think. If you added say a Kadri and a 1st round pick to the mix, I think you might land a pretty decent top six centreman.

If the Leafs are going to acquire a top six forward, that player is likely going to come with a significant salary, so shedding Komi salary back the other way makes sense.

If Burkie can offload Jason Blake and his ridiculous contract, he can offload just about anything.

Would you make the above trade suggested for Jeff Carter, if he was willing to renegotiate his 11-year contract?

 

[slapshot]

Liles. Hands-down.

You can't be serious?

 

[slapshot]

The thing that really complicates things in my opinion is that, for the team to take the next step into contender status, the Leafs need three things - the often mentioned big, strong, 70 point forward; a stable, contender calibre goaltender/tandem; and a #2 dman, a defensively solid guy that can be relied on without question to defend a lead, yet can still make a solid outlet pass.

Despite his flaws and people's complaints, Phaneuf is a top pairing dman. Liles has been as good as even the most optimistic fan could have expected, but on a contender he is likely a #3 guy. All the young guys look good, but at the moment it might be dangerous to simply assume Gunnar/Gardiner/Schenn/Franson/Aulie will be more than second pairing guys on a true contender. Hope for the best of course, but they are a few years away from a best case scenario, maybe more.

So not only do they need to move somebody already, they may have to look at bringing in yet another guy to crowd the situation even more.

I'd say that is a position the Leafs have more candidates for than any other. Give it max 2 seasons and I would be surprised if one of the young d-men didn't fill the role. I think Schenn is pretty close to it if he can remain consistent without the stretches of bad play.

The long list of young players to potentially fill that role is why I listed it last of the three and is of the lowest priority. That said, dmen can take an agonizingly long time to develop most of the time, and the Leafs may lose out on some opportunities in the playoffs if they just sit back and wait.

I agree Schenn should be the guy to watch for that role, which is the reason I would be hesitant to trade him to get that forward. If he can smooth out the recent troubles he has been having and reach a Seabrook-level of play, then a top four of Phaneuf, Schenn, Liles, and Gunnar may be enough.

Actually, I think it's pretty safe to say Gardiner will be a top four on the Leafs for a long time to come.

 

[Kin]

Liles. Hands-down.

You can't be serious?

Well, I was before the extension.

 

[Kaberle15]

Liles. Hands-down.

You can't be serious?

Well, I was before the extension.

Really ?
Because he was an UFA before he signed the new deal, or was about his play or fit in the team ?

 

[jonlleafs]

I don't think Komi is as untradeable as some may think. If you added say a Kadri and a 1st round pick to the mix, I think you might land a pretty decent top six centreman.

If the Leafs are going to acquire a top six forward, that player is likely going to come with a significant salary, so shedding Komi salary back the other way makes sense.

If Burkie can offload Jason Blake and his ridiculous contract, he can offload just about anything.

Would you make the above trade suggested for Jeff Carter, if he was willing to renegotiate his 11-year contract?

Why in the world would Jeff Carter renegotiate his contract for a team?  Even if it NHLPA would allow that, why on God's green Earth would anyone do such a thing?  If I told you to quit your job today and go to another company and ask them to pay you 3/4 of what you're making now, would you do it?  Hell no... so why would Carter do such a thing?

 

[bustaheims]

Would you make the above trade suggested for Jeff Carter, if he was willing to renegotiate his 11-year contract?

Well, since the CBA specifically prohibits that from happening . . .