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Who will be the new coach of the Leafs

Keefe would walk into another NHL job. Probably one in a similar stage to where the Leafs were when he took over.

Like the rest of the team he hasn't proved yet that he knows how to go to the next level in terms of the post season. But then that's true of anyone until they do it.

I think the thread is a bit premature though.

Firstly, as bad as we may have been, we're not out yet.

Secondly, who's to say he goes? I think he probably exceeded regular season expectations this season in comparison to the tools he was given. He's probably getting about the results expected in the playoffs with the tools he's been given.

Thirdly, it's the Leafs, expect the unexpected.
 
Arn said:
Firstly, as bad as we may have been, we're not out yet.
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Anything can happen in sports ...
Chances of it happening in the case seems lower than the 9.5% NHL average for teams down 3-1 as they don't seem to have anything working and have been chronically weak defensively and on the PK all season. Their offense and PP have dried up.
Even if they did come back against the Bruins, this is not a championship caliber team. There are about 10 teams better than they are. They don't have the goaltending nor any sign it could get hot.

It is disappointing. Many Leafs fans would have hoped for a more contested series. But it is not a shocking result based upon their season. The better team is winning.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
bustaheims said:
Joe said:
bustaheims said:
Joe said:
bustaheims said:
A less ?accomplished? coach with NHL experience is the way to go. The list of coaches who have won the cup with multiple teams is incredibly short - there?s 3 of them, and only one outside the original 6 era.

No rookies, but no one who?s high profile, either. That?s the way to go.
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Aren?t you literally describing Keefe?

I?m not for or against firing, I?m just confused by the criteria you?ve posted.
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No. Keefe was a rookie coach.
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I get that. I guess what I mean is you?re describing what Keefe is right now.
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Maybe. And it wouldn?t shock me to see Keefe have more success if he lands another head coaching opportunity. It?s not unusual for coaches to need to go through a team or two before they get it right.
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Keefe will get snapped up because of his regular season record.  Maybe he can convert to Mormonism while he's in Salt Lake. 

Which I just drove through yesterday, FWIW.  It's not a very big city, even if you include all the necklace of suburbs that stretch north and south.
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I have driven through Salt Lake multiple times. One of the worst driving experiences. Now I only will drive through on a Sunday when they are all in church.
 
Dappleganger said:
Can we get into a Time Machine and hire Bruce Cassidy when he was let go by the Bruins?
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While I think coaching has a big hand in this, the team is simply not built well.
Just an example.....Look at our 3rd line. Holmberg (4 games 0 Goals) and Robertson(8 games, 1 goal) have played 12 playoff games total. And Jarnkrok has 5 goals in 90 playoff games. What exactly are we expecting these guys to do out there?
 
Joe said:
Who cares really. Coaching is very overrated.
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Generally I would agree with the sentiment "show me great players and I'll show you a great coach", but I don't think coaching is overrated.  There are extreme examples of a coach turning a garbage team into a good team, especially defensively. Look no further than Trotz arrival with the Islanders, they went from one of the worse defensive teams in the league to one of the stingiest in 1 season. That wasn't the players, that was all Trotz and his systems.
 
Zee said:
Joe said:
Who cares really. Coaching is very overrated.
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Generally I would agree with the sentiment "show me great players and I'll show you a great coach", but I don't think coaching is overrated.  There are extreme examples of a coach turning a garbage team into a good team, especially defensively. Look no further than Trotz arrival with the Islanders, they went from one of the worse defensive teams in the league to one of the stingiest in 1 season. That wasn't the players, that was all Trotz and his systems.
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In general, you notice bad coaching a lot more than you notice good coaching, but, yeah, there are instances where a coach can have a definite impact - even if only from switching up tactics. The players obviously still need to execute and have the skills to do so well, obviously.

For the record, I don't think Keefe is a bad coach. I just don't think he's a particularly good one, either. He's very middle of the pack, for the most part. He just doesn't appear to be the right coach to get this group over the hump, and he needs more depth to his tactical approach - or needs to do better at instilling it. This team doesn't seem to have a strong Plan B (or, at least, struggle to execute it) for when Plan A isn't getting it done.
 
Zee said:
Joe said:
Who cares really. Coaching is very overrated.
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Generally I would agree with the sentiment "show me great players and I'll show you a great coach", but I don't think coaching is overrated.  There are extreme examples of a coach turning a garbage team into a good team, especially defensively. Look no further than Trotz arrival with the Islanders, they went from one of the worse defensive teams in the league to one of the stingiest in 1 season. That wasn't the players, that was all Trotz and his systems.
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Maybe - but at the end of the day so much if it hinges on good goaltending. Of which the leafs do not have.
 
bustaheims said:
Zee said:
Joe said:
Who cares really. Coaching is very overrated.
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Generally I would agree with the sentiment "show me great players and I'll show you a great coach", but I don't think coaching is overrated.  There are extreme examples of a coach turning a garbage team into a good team, especially defensively. Look no further than Trotz arrival with the Islanders, they went from one of the worse defensive teams in the league to one of the stingiest in 1 season. That wasn't the players, that was all Trotz and his systems.
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In general, you notice bad coaching a lot more than you notice good coaching, but, yeah, there are instances where a coach can have a definite impact - even if only from switching up tactics. The players obviously still need to execute and have the skills to do so well, obviously.

For the record, I don't think Keefe is a bad coach. I just don't think he's a particularly good one, either. He's very middle of the pack, for the most part. He just doesn't appear to be the right coach to get this group over the hump, and he needs more depth to his tactical approach - or needs to do better at instilling it. This team doesn't seem to have a strong Plan B (or, at least, struggle to execute it) for when Plan A isn't getting it done.
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busta speaks for me, said it better than I would have.
 
Was wondering about the chances of them getting someone like Jon Cooper, but imagine the LOLs in the media if he got the job given his first round exits this year and last.
 
Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington said:
Was wondering about the chances of them getting someone like Jon Cooper, but imagine the LOLs in the media if he got the job given his first round exits this year and last.
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He reportedly recently signed an extension with Tampa, so...
 
bustaheims said:
Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington said:
Was wondering about the chances of them getting someone like Jon Cooper, but imagine the LOLs in the media if he got the job given his first round exits this year and last.
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He reportedly recently signed an extension with Tampa, so...
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That's fine, we're after Rod the Bod anyway.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington said:
Was wondering about the chances of them getting someone like Jon Cooper, but imagine the LOLs in the media if he got the job given his first round exits this year and last.
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He reportedly recently signed an extension with Tampa, so...
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That's fine, we're after Rod the Bod anyway.
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Obviously.
 
I got one. If the Leafs win the Stanley Cup this year Keefe can have a 5-year extension as the highest paid coach in the league. How about that?

 
Dappleganger said:
I got one. If the Leafs win the Stanley Cup this year Keefe can have a 5-year extension as the highest paid coach in the league. How about that?
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If they win the cup this year with this roster he should be made king of Canada
 
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