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Nik the Trik said:I think I'm going to need to see a lot more from an overage 4th round pick before I start talking about him as a sure thing we just need to wait on.
herman said:Brooks is legitimately too good for the WHL.
herman said:Nik the Trik said:I think I'm going to need to see a lot more from an overage 4th round pick before I start talking about him as a sure thing we just need to wait on.
Brooks is legitimately too good for the WHL.
Funny thing, he is behind his teammate Sam Steel, who was picked 30th overall this summer by the Ducks with our pick for Andersen.
herman said:Nik the Trik said:I think I'm going to need to see a lot more from an overage 4th round pick before I start talking about him as a sure thing we just need to wait on.
Brooks is legitimately too good for the WHL.
Funny thing, he is behind his teammate Sam Steel, who was picked 30th overall this summer by the Ducks with our pick for Andersen.
Nik the Trik said:herman said:Brooks is legitimately too good for the WHL.
So are a lot of 20 year olds.
herman said:I'm curious about this assertion, but I'm not currently in position to look it up at the moment. Can anyone link a chart or something?
Highlander said:Why don't we start a Brooks thread? Already wanting to jettison Nylander is crazy. He is still a boy-man. Wait till the frame fills out with 20lbs of lean muscle and he builds his game. I think he is going to be scary good in about 3-4 years.
Nik the Trik said:herman said:I'm curious about this assertion, but I'm not currently in position to look it up at the moment. Can anyone link a chart or something?
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/player-age/20-year-old-nhl-players.html
And last year, was Brooks' Draft +2 year. He turned 20.
Nik the Trik said:Highlander said:Why don't we start a Brooks thread? Already wanting to jettison Nylander is crazy. He is still a boy-man. Wait till the frame fills out with 20lbs of lean muscle and he builds his game. I think he is going to be scary good in about 3-4 years.
Your frankly unsettling interest in his physique aside, there's a legitimate chance Nylander remains a fairly slight player. The Leafs and the NHL have him listed at 190. It's not a certainty, or even a likelihood, that he puts on 20 pounds.
herman said:I'm curious about this assertion, but I'm not currently in position to look it up at the moment. Can anyone link a chart or something?
Brooks led the WHL in scoring last season at 19 too.
Nik the Trik said:herman said:Brooks is legitimately too good for the WHL.
So are a lot of 20 year olds.
Coco-puffs said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Clarke_Trophy
11 of the 15 Players who led the WHL in scoring between 99-00 and 13-14 did not make the NHL (more than 40 games). Note, Brendan Leipsic may reduce that number to 10.
Players who led the WHL in scoring that also had NHL careers:
Linden Vey
Troy Brouwer
Eric Fehr
Erik Christensen
(Edited to fix my counting error and add the list of players who DID make the NHL)
herman said:Coco-puffs said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Clarke_Trophy
11 of the 15 Players who led the WHL in scoring between 99-00 and 13-14 did not make the NHL (more than 40 games). Note, Brendan Leipsic may reduce that number to 10.
Players who led the WHL in scoring that also had NHL careers:
Linden Vey
Troy Brouwer
Eric Fehr
Erik Christensen
(Edited to fix my counting error and add the list of players who DID make the NHL)
Ooh, nice.
I'll roll back my excitement a tad and wait to see him on the Marlies.
In terms of junior overage dominance, is age the huge advantage driver, or is it size? Because Brooks is teenager sized even now and his emergence looks to be more a factor of deployment + size bias.
Frank E said:You may be picking the flyshit out of pepper here...that's a pretty discouraging trend there, because I too was hoping that Brooks was legit bank.
[Let's] look at forwards from the Canadian Hockey Leagues (OHL, WHL, and QMJHL.) Take the forwards drafted in the first and second rounds those years. Excluding those who went to the AHL/NHL, Brooks is 3rd in points per game of nine, ranking ahead of higher profile players like Josh Ho-Sang and John Quenneville. In even-strength points per game, Brooks was 8th among 2014 draft-eligible players this year. Even with league adjustments, that's impressive as hell.
And by the way, the player who's ranked 9th? Christian Dvorak, whom Bleacher Report just ranked the 33rd-best hockey prospect in the world. Brooks is damn good right now. The fact that his growth started later shouldn't detract from the fact that it's now caught up with--and may even have zoomed ahead of--his peers.