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As of Feb 25, 2021 (cumulative this and last season):Guilt Trip said:
Nylander 41st in points and 69th highest cap hit. Value contract?
Matthew 5th in points and 3rd highest cap hit.
Marner 11th in points and 7th highest cap hit.
Tavares 36th in points and 5th highest cap hit...
Heroic Shrimp
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bustaheims
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Nylander is really really good as these subtle almost effortless looking plays. It makes him a deceptively strong defensive influence, though, mostly outside the defensive zone. Most people don't really notice these things, unfortunately.
bustaheims said:
Oh, they notice the 1 out of 10 time it doesn't work.
Phileas Fogg
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I don't understand the folks that excessively praise him as much as I don't understand those that excessively dump on him.
He has not been what we'd hoped this year. Neither defensively or offensively. He's had his 2nd benching in Keefe's short coaching career. He's got amazing skill, but he has to cut down on the defensive puckwatching, and bring less floating and more intensity to his game more consistently.
The team would be crazy to trade him for less than a high value piece, and his fans should not have to do selective stat dives and point out subtleties to show his value. There's lots of room for improvement in his game.
He has not been what we'd hoped this year. Neither defensively or offensively. He's had his 2nd benching in Keefe's short coaching career. He's got amazing skill, but he has to cut down on the defensive puckwatching, and bring less floating and more intensity to his game more consistently.
The team would be crazy to trade him for less than a high value piece, and his fans should not have to do selective stat dives and point out subtleties to show his value. There's lots of room for improvement in his game.
Goaliedave31
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If there was a "like" button on these forums, I would have pressed it for this. You nailed it Frycer!Frycer14 said:
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Goaliedave31 said:
I thought I made it clear that you were to post an hour after mine, so that it looked more authentic. Instead of a family size bag of pork rinds as promised, you'll only get the single serving.
Guilt Trip
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Absolutely. Bang on Frycer.Goaliedave31 said:
Kin
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Frycer14 said:
But sort of indirectly you've shown why those "selective" stat dives are used by people, namely because the people who aren't inclined to give him credit for much and haven't been over what everyone in the world would agree has been a less than ideal start to his season dismiss what the actual numbers always said about him.
His production, for instance, was never "bad". He was never on pace for point or goal totals that anyone would look at and say "Man, what a crappy season for anyone relied on to be a secondary scorer on a good team" but when you would point that out in relation to the criticism he was facing you'd get "Well, it's not really about the scoring numbers but the other things".
So it's not that anyone ever needed to bring up his possession numbers to establish that the criticism was over the top it was that the people criticizing him didn't want to hear "He's still on pace for 20 goals and 60 points over 82 games which is pretty good".
As for the rest of it the "less floating" or whatever, again, I don't think that strictly speaking anyone ever needed to bring up his advanced stats to show that regardless of what sort of labels his critics wanted to apply, generally good things were still happening with him on the ice but if you used the other argument of "The less floating/more intensity crap has been said about every single offensively talented player on the Leafs during their slumps dating back to probably Vince Damphousse and wanting Nylander to become Ryan O'Reilly is not a legitimate standard to hold him up against" well, again, it would mainly fall on deaf ears.
azzurri63
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Frycer14 said:
Agree with you 100%. He needs to bring up the compete level and on a more consistent basis. Great seeing him pot 2 goals the other night but I'm not getting too excited. Needs to play hard every night at both ends of the ice. Until he does that on a nightly basis he's going to continue getting the criticism.
Highlander
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Any update on Wild Bill Nylander? I guess his nose will be well swabbed in the next few days.
L K said:
If the close contact of his ends up having a confirmed positive case then yeah this should be the minimum time he quarantines for. The wording last night was it was just a possible positive case.
Guilt Trip
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I think they can rejoin after 2 or three of days of negative tests because he hasn't tested positive. I think Rick Bowness is back after he had a few days of negative tests.L K said:
bustaheims
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Guilt Trip said:
At the very least, he's going to have to sit out through his potential contact's incubation period (they said something on the broadcast last night that it was still early for a definitive test for them). If they test negative afterwards and Willy also tests negative, he'll be back. That's probably a few more days, but, hopefully, that's the end of it.
Guilt Trip
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Let's hope he doesn't miss too much time and nobody in Leafland gets it. I'd hate to see this season get derailed because if it goes through the team like it is in Van the season is over.bustaheims said:
L K
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CarltonTheBear said:
Admittedly I tried to flip through the NHL COVID protocols quickly and got bored pretty quick. It seems like they have different quarantine streams based on the category of exposure and the NHL breaks down contacts into 5 different categories so that could also play a role.
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