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Zach Hyman Suspended 2 Games

Al14 said:
Hobbes said:
Stronger Than All said:
I just don't understand why Wagner didn't even have a hearing then.
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That's the one I have a problem with. I think the sort of late, unsuspecting hit Hyman delivered is bad for the game and needs to be eliminated from the game so I'm fine with his suspension; but the deliberate intent-to-injure sort of hit that Wagner tried on Morgan shortly thereafter is (IMO) even worse. That's the sort of predatory attack that could end a career so I find it really disappointing that they turned a blind eye to it.
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Why would the League want to poke the Bear named Jacobs?
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This is probably the correct take here.  Jacobs is on the board of governors, it's a billionaire single owner, so his voice is a loud one and he doesn't like bad things happening to his Bruins.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
This is probably the correct take here.  Jacobs is on the board of governors, it's a billionaire single owner, so his voice is a loud one and he doesn't like bad things happening to his Bruins.
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https:
//www.nbcsports.com/boston/bruins/brad-marchands-suspension-history
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2 games, 2 games, 2 games, then finally 5 games.  Even though he was a repeat offender, no extra games were added till the last 5 gamer.  Hyman gets 2 games having a clean record till Saturday night.  1 game, or a fine was more appropriate.  I'm sure Jacobs insisted on it being 2 games!

Nothing was really done about the licking!  Try doing that out in public yourself.  You would likely be charged with assault by licking someone on the street.  And yes, unwanted touching is considered assault.

Licking, or kissing an opponent should have garnered Marchand a suspension, not just a stern talking to IMHO.
 
Al14 said:
2 games, 2 games, 2 games, then finally 5 games.  Even though he was a repeat offender, no extra games were added till the last 5 gamer.  Hyman gets 2 games having a clean record till Saturday night.
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So Hyman's first suspension is two games, same as Marchand's first.

And try reading it again. Marchand's suspension history is 2 games, 5 games, 2 games, 3 games, 2 games, 5 games.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
mr grieves said:
Good timing.

Feels like, over the last 2 years, the Leafs settle into some sorta funk around now. December and January have been months when the team's play slides, experimentation or a shake up of some kind is called for, and Babcock is slow to react.
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It's two losses after a 5 game winning streak. I am not sure we can call this a funk just yet.
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They played poorly in a few of those 5 games.
 
One of the things that I really enjoy about this harebrained conspiracy being pushed is the idea that Jeremy Jacobs is going to go out of his way to make sure Zach Hyman gets suspended for an extra game or two.

This is right up there with thinking the CIA is stealing your mail.
 
It's not a matter of Jacobs saying anything in particular, the fact that he's buddy buddy with Bettman just lends itself to the NHL giving more favorable decisions whenever Boston is involved. Never surprises me when playing Boston how they seem to get away with any hook, hold or slash whereas the same offense against their team is strictly enforced.

It's not concious on the NHL's side, more of a learned behavior whenever Boston is involved in anything. Better to give them a favorable decision  rather than having old Jacobs call you on it later.
 
I don't for a second believe that Bettman would in anyway risk the integrity of the game over something so minor. It actually goes deeply against common sense to think that a multi-billion dollar industry would risk a scandal over something so incredibly inconsequential.

I'd also like to point out that there's absolutely nothing in the way of anything resembling actual evidence here outside of people who maybe are looking at this with some confirmation bias.
 
Bettman isn't risking anything because you can't prove a thing on subjective calls. People call him on it he'll say it's crazy conspiracy theories and there's no proof. Never doubt that Jacobs has Bettman's ear though, the hall of fame commish loves his billionaire buddies.
 
Zee said:
Bettman isn't risking anything because you can't prove a thing on subjective calls.
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What you can prove is if anyone in any part of the league office is in anyway instructed to call things against Boston differently than any other team in the league. This, by the way, is why almost all real life conspiracies fall apart, because they depend on people keeping secrets and people are bad at that. Watergate, something involving the highest levels of political power, fell apart because the United States government screwed up breaking into a hotel room and then got exposed because a guy at the FBI was upset that he didn't get a promotion.

But, no, dozens of NHL referees have been told to call things differently against Boston than anyone else and they all were good with it.

Here, by the way, a site where you can see which teams in the league have been called for the most penalties and the least. Guess who #1 is? And guess who's at #31?

https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-stats?season=2018&category=MISCELLANEOUS&group=1&time=0&pos=0&team=1&page=1
 
I never said they were told, thought I made that clear? Guess not.

But you're right, you'll never see any kind of corruption when there's hundreds of millions of dollars in play. Clean as the driven snow.
 
Bullfrog said:
I think Lucic's is worse, but let's just assume they're equal. If you go back to the discussion between Nik and I, I think we agree that this type of hit is what needs to be out of the game. Ignore what the letter of the rules say: what's the intent here? Lucic is fully intending on laying out as much damage as possible.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Lucic's hit. The player was facing him and it wasn't too late. Hyman's was from the side, against the boards and very late. Again, Bobby Mac says the determining factor in a late hit is that .6 of a second is fine, .7 is late.
Same goes for the Reaves hit on Wilson. Away from the boards and not past the .6 time.
Anybody see Kronwall smoke Lee last night?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAfkxq5dafc
What a beauty hit and clean in my eyes. Lee was bent over.
Funny thing they were mentioning maybe the Leafs go after him for a 3rd pairing guy for the playoffs. Just the kind of guy they need on the backend.
 
Zee said:
I never said they were told, thought I made that clear? Guess not.
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Right. Bettman must just influence dozens of referees with his psychic powers.

Zee said:
But you're right, you'll never see any kind of corruption when there's hundreds of millions of dollars in play. Clean as the driven snow.
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Well, for starters, there aren't "hundreds of millions of dollars" at stake in whether or not Boston gets a few fewer penalty calls than other teams(which is again THE OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH. They are the most penalized team in the league this year).

But secondly, if any of the other owners, most of whom are absolutely just as rich as Jeremy Jacobs ever caught wind of this you can bet there'd be a lawsuit which is why this isn't happening in any way outside of the minds of people who probably think Bigfoot is running for Mayor of Seattle.
 
Sorry, I was raised Italian,and my dad, rest in peace taught me there's corruption anywhere where lots of money is at stake. It's the Italian way.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Bullfrog said:
I think Lucic's is worse, but let's just assume they're equal. If you go back to the discussion between Nik and I, I think we agree that this type of hit is what needs to be out of the game. Ignore what the letter of the rules say: what's the intent here? Lucic is fully intending on laying out as much damage as possible.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Lucic's hit. The player was facing him and it wasn't too late. Hyman's was from the side, against the boards and very late. Again, Bobby Mac says the determining factor in a late hit is that .6 of a second is fine, .7 is late.
Same goes for the Reaves hit on Wilson. Away from the boards and not past the .6 time.
Anybody see Kronwall smoke Lee last night?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAfkxq5dafc
What a beauty hit and clean in my eyes. Lee was bent over.
Funny thing they were mentioning maybe the Leafs go after him for a 3rd pairing guy for the playoffs. Just the kind of guy they need on the backend.
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O'neil hit it on the head on Overdrive and I've been saying this for last couple seasons. You need someone with some bite that bit of nastiness, toughness that is needed in the playoffs. Don't need a goon or someone that take a regular shift and contribute just someone that keeps the other teams head up. You can't have a full roster of soft players. Regular season means s**t compared to playoffs. Totally different game and I don't think and Jeff was bang on that this team could win 4 rounds of playoff hockey. Their talent and scoring might get them over a round but to win 16 playoff games I don't think so.

I would totally agree with Ferraro as well besides Hyman and Kadri there's no one else on this team that has that. Team needs to address that. Should have drafted a few guys like that and hopefully someone would have made the team over the years.

 
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