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Beowulf, is the 400m less signigicant than the 800m because it's shorter?
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Sgt said:I just don't know, busta... I'm curiuos to hear what Murray and all the previous Olympic gold medal winners in Tennis say about where their victory ranks in their lifetime accomplishments. - Right at the top, I'm guessing.
Sgt said:Beowulf, is the 400m less signigicant than the 800m because it's shorter?
bustaheims said:Sgt said:I just don't know, busta... I'm curiuos to hear what Murray and all the previous Olympic gold medal winners in Tennis say about where their victory ranks in their lifetime accomplishments. - Right at the top, I'm guessing.
Sure, subjectively, but that doesn't mean, in terms of objective value that they're the same, because, they're quite clearly not. Half the field size and shorter matches. These are significant factors. I'm sure if you asked those same players which tournament set ups they felt were more difficult, they'd go with the Grand Slam style.
Sgt said:Beowulf said:Sgt said:According to?
Anyone who remotely follows tennis.
Well, I do so what you're saying just isn't true.
Sgt said:Beowulf, is the 400m less signigicant than the 800m because it's shorter?
bustaheims said:Sgt said:Beowulf, is the 400m less signigicant than the 800m because it's shorter?
Not really a fair comparison, and you know that.
Beowulf said:Sgt said:Beowulf said:Sgt said:According to?
Anyone who remotely follows tennis.
Well, I do so what you're saying just isn't true.
Well if you really did you'd understand the pressure/prestige/difficulty that comes with winning any of the four majors and no one would have to explain the setup of the event to you.
Nothing really compares, an Olympic gold - while a great result is not close to equivalent.
So to recap, a major consists of:
- Double the field
- Longer matches and more matches to win the tournament
- A two week event
Sgt said:Beowulf, is the 400m less signigicant than the 800m because it's shorter?
No offense Sgt, but really?
Sgt said:Sure, but that's still not really saying anything... What difference does that make if everyone is playing under the same rules?
Sgt said:Why not? What if say, the Stanly Cup playoff series get moved to 5 games from 7? Do they become less significant to the athletes in the future because they are shorter?
bustaheims said:Sgt said:Sure, but that's still not really saying anything... What difference does that make if everyone is playing under the same rules?
Because the rules are different in the different styles of tournaments, and the rules in the Grand Slam tournaments make winning one a more difficult accomplishment, and, therefore, a more significant one in the world of tennis.
Sgt said:But there are 16 shots at those per 4 years compared to 1 shot at Olympic gold. That's a huge difference that can't be ignored.
bustaheims said:Sgt said:Why not? What if say, the Stanly Cup playoff series get moved to 5 games from 7? Do they become less significant to the athletes in the future because they are shorter?
Well, for starters, because of the massive difference between a race and a direct head to head competition like tennis. And, yes, I'd say, if all the series of the NHL playoffs were reduced to 5 games, winning the Cup would be a less significant accomplishment in comparison to the 7 game Cups, regardless of how the players involved feel. It's not about significance to the athletes, it's about significance to the sport.
bustaheims said:Sgt said:Sure, but that's still not really saying anything... What difference does that make if everyone is playing under the same rules?
Because the rules are different in the different styles of tournaments, and the rules in the Grand Slam tournaments make winning one a more difficult accomplishment, and, therefore, a more significant one in the world of tennis.
Sgt said:Well, this seems to be the fundamental difference in our philosophies. No point continuing when I'm focused on the individual and you're focused on the sport.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:The only thing that diminishes the accomplishment in the slightest is the 3 set matches makes it easier on the body.
As for the size of the field, it's actually about on par simply for the fact that a lot of scrubs make the early rounds of Slams, not the case in the Olympics.
Murray will win a slam, of this I am sure, but on a personal level, how many people will win Olympic gold in their home country after beating the best players in the world at the time?
Perhaps I'm not articulating it properly, but I think it's a case of while some might not view this tournament as significantly as a Slam, the prestige for the man is pretty much second to none.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:Perhaps I'm not articulating it properly, but I think it's a case of while some might not view this tournament as significantly as a Slam, the prestige for the man is pretty much second to none.