Highlander
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Its a real concern to read this about Vlad, who is driving this bus? Completely nuts. Maybe Donaldson had some real beefs about the trainers.
2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
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Kin
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herman said:
So I don't know how literal that is as Vlad can't really speak English but even then it's not that crazy a concept. Generally speaking baseball players are supposed to keep fit and teams give them the resources to do that but time actually spent with coaches in the limited practice time players have is more likely to spent on things that are more baseball related. Working with a swing coach, watching tape, doing infield drills...etc
Working out in a gym isn't really central to what a baseball player does. Players do pre-game running to stay trim and putting on muscle mass isn't necessarily a positve. Jose Altuve is 5'6, 165. Mookie Betts is 5'9, 180. Power comes from bat speed, not big biceps.
hockeyfan1
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Jays lose 7-2 this afternoon.
Starter T.J.Zeuch took the loss even though he only allowed two runs and struck out six in four innings, compared to reliever Brock Stewart who let in four runs in one inning.
With yesterday?s 4-3 Blue Jay win, Toronto is guaranteed not to reach 100 losses (even if they should lose the rest of the remaining seven games).
Highlights:
[tweet]1175447383003582464[/tweet]
[tweet]1175164502612090880[/tweet]
[tweet]1174813020775751683[/tweet]
Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-yankees/2019/09/21/567535#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567535
Starter T.J.Zeuch took the loss even though he only allowed two runs and struck out six in four innings, compared to reliever Brock Stewart who let in four runs in one inning.
With yesterday?s 4-3 Blue Jay win, Toronto is guaranteed not to reach 100 losses (even if they should lose the rest of the remaining seven games).
Highlights:
[tweet]1175447383003582464[/tweet]
[tweet]1175164502612090880[/tweet]
[tweet]1174813020775751683[/tweet]
Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-yankees/2019/09/21/567535#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567535
Kin
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Frank E said:
I don't know to what extent it's scientifically proven that any exercise actually reduces the risk of injury so I'll just re-state that I don't think it's exceptionally weird for a baseball team to not be overly concerned with the amount of time their prospects spend in a weight room.
hockeyfan1
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Re: Strength training/exercises to reduce athletic injuries, improve resiliency etc...
Elliott Richardson is the founder of Acadia Performance Training Inc., a general strength training program that emphasizes ?sport non-specific? training, and resilience in athletes to prevent injury and better their game.
Strength training, agility drills and basic flexibility exercises are used by Richardson to produce athletes in whom the risk of injury is reduced. He says this applies even to something as high-impact as running because of stronger muscles, and stronger joints.
A slightly unique approach to helping athletes of all types achieve maximum fitness for strength & speed.
https://www.kingscountynews.ca/sports/other-sports/general-strength-training-prevents-injuries-improves-game-for-athletes-trainer-245869/
Elliott Richardson is the founder of Acadia Performance Training Inc., a general strength training program that emphasizes ?sport non-specific? training, and resilience in athletes to prevent injury and better their game.
Strength training, agility drills and basic flexibility exercises are used by Richardson to produce athletes in whom the risk of injury is reduced. He says this applies even to something as high-impact as running because of stronger muscles, and stronger joints.
A slightly unique approach to helping athletes of all types achieve maximum fitness for strength & speed.
https://www.kingscountynews.ca/sports/other-sports/general-strength-training-prevents-injuries-improves-game-for-athletes-trainer-245869/
hockeyfan1
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday September 23 7pm
Dylan Bundy RH Orioles 6-14 4.89 ERA vs Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays 0-5 6.48 ERA
Tuesday September 24 7pm
Gabriel Ynoa RH Orioles 1-9 5.65 ERA vs Anthony Kay LH Blue Jays 1-0 5.79 ERA
Wednesday September 25 7pm
Aaron Brooks RH Orioles 6-8 5.75 ERA vs Jacob Waguespack RH Orioles 4-5 4.75 ERA
All games on SN & The FAN 590.
Source: MLB.com, baseball-reference, theStar.com
The Baltimore Orioles (51-105) visit the Rogers Centre for a three-game series against the Blue Jays (63-93).
Baltimore sports the second-worst w/l record in the major leagues this season, preceded by the Detroit Tigers, and the Florida Marlins who are third-worst in that category.
Luckily for the Blue Jays, they will not have the ignominy of the potential of finishing with 100 losses. True, while the Jays record is nothing to crow about, at least in this rookie year, the team made a concerted effort in these last few weeks of the season to try and avoid the road to #100.
Only after factoring in the KC Royals, do the Blue Jays come in at fifth worst, if that?s any consolation to a Jays fan.
The Jays come off having lost two out of three to the Yankees (Sunday?s 8-2 loss). However, Toronto has set a new MLB record ? the Jay rookies (Biggio, Bichette, Guerrero, Jansen, Tellez, McKinney) ? the most collective number of home runs (by rookies) in any single year!
As if that isn?t enough, give Justin Smoak credit. He holds the major league record for hitting the most home runs in the ninth and extra innings.
This is the last homestand of the year with the six games remaining.
The Jays second baseman Bo Bichette is currently out with a concussion. It is unknown if he returns either later in this series or towards the final weekend.
Cavan Biggio is the latest Blue Jay with a hot bat for this month, sporting a .340 BA and 1.110 OPS. He?s also on somewhat of a streak of 23 consecutive on-base games. Only Houston?s Alvarez has more.
Whew. ?nough said.
GO JAYS GO!
OldTimeHockey
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Nik the Trik said:
Talk to Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa
herman
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Nik the Trik said:
I largely agree: swing mechanics and technique is what's required for the hitting side. The boy knows how to put bat on ball.
I think the point of his revelation* here was more for becoming an everyday position player, where I think mobility, core strength, soft tissue support are pretty advantageous, i.e. this is weight training for balancing out his body and playing longevity (it's a lot of extraneous work and wear and tear to run at his current size). You only need enough consistent 'strength' to mis-hit a ball 420' to keep up the dingers as a 540' blast and a 430' drive are worth the same number of runs.
On the team level, if Vladdy can be an everyday position player instead of a sheltered 1B turret, we can stash a veteran bat there and improve overall offensive depth.
* I know he said he's aiming for strength... he's also only 20, so probably shouldn't be doing any hard weight training until now anyway.
Kin
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herman said:
I agree that there's a tremendous upside for the Jays if Guerrero can be a good defensive 3B. It's why, as mentioned in that tweet, the Jays' infield coach is going to be working with him on it this off-season. Coaching him at the sport he plays professionally is their job and they appear to be doing it.
I'm not arguing whether or not there's an upside to Guerrero being fit(although??? Pablo Sandoval got three rings), I'm saying that Guerrero's revelation really isn't much a surprise and, to other people, that it's not evidence of some sort of terrible malfeasance by the team. Ballplayers and their fitness have traditionally been their own responsibility and, luckily, they have a huge financial incentive to work at it.
OldTimeHockey
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Nik the Trik said:
Is there scientific proof saying this is indeed a fact?
hockeyfan1
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Guerrero?s natural position is the outfield. Playing third base in the major leagues has been a bit more complex for him. His footwork and agility need improvement.
Let? s not kid ourselves here, the guy is just twenty years old. For a rookie, he actually has done his job fairly well. His power hitting is something else altogether. He doesn?t need weight training for that.
The Jays staff would hope a training regimen would help him become a better third baseman in terms of endurance. 162 games can be at times overwhelming for a rookie, and Vladdy under the circumstances has done admirably.
In other words, resiliency and strength training is where it will be at, in an effort to make himself even more proficient and efficient at his game as it stands.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/blue-jays-rookie-guerrero-looking-forward-to-productive-off-season
Let? s not kid ourselves here, the guy is just twenty years old. For a rookie, he actually has done his job fairly well. His power hitting is something else altogether. He doesn?t need weight training for that.
The Jays staff would hope a training regimen would help him become a better third baseman in terms of endurance. 162 games can be at times overwhelming for a rookie, and Vladdy under the circumstances has done admirably.
In other words, resiliency and strength training is where it will be at, in an effort to make himself even more proficient and efficient at his game as it stands.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/blue-jays-rookie-guerrero-looking-forward-to-productive-off-season
hockeyfan1
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He played briefly on an experimental trial when he was scouted by Anthopoulos while in the Dominican Republic. He wasn?t too good at catching the balls that flew out. Speed wise he was fine. Eventually, he was asked which position he favoured and he chose third base. He?s played that position ever since.
dappleganger
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-prospect-guerrero-jr-isnt-just-like-dad/
From the article:
?He was a really understated kid, without any sense of entitlement,? Anthopoulos said. ?We worked him out in the outfield and didn?t think he moved that well. So I asked him what position he liked to play?you know, where he had the most fun?and he said third base. I said, ?OK: You?re a third baseman.'?
From the article:
?He was a really understated kid, without any sense of entitlement,? Anthopoulos said. ?We worked him out in the outfield and didn?t think he moved that well. So I asked him what position he liked to play?you know, where he had the most fun?and he said third base. I said, ?OK: You?re a third baseman.'?