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2020-2021 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Since the Edmonton series, teams have been all over the short bump pass that the Leafs have used all year to avoid the forechck in their d-zone.

I think it's part fatigue, physical and mental on the Leafs part and also teams having enough video to key in on what made the Leafs so successful in transition.

It's a pretty ballsy move from opposing teams, because if you press that hard with multiple forecheckers and miss, you've often got an outmanmed situation going the other way, with multiple players needing to change direction and accelerate the opposite way.

I know their are a lot of statistical components that suggest that this result regression was to be expected, but that's just some of the systems stuff I've noticed.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Since the Edmonton series, teams have been all over the short bump pass that the Leafs have used all year to avoid the forechck in their d-zone.

I think it's part fatigue, physical and mental on the Leafs part and also teams having enough video to key in on what made the Leafs so successful in transition.

It's a pretty ballsy move from opposing teams, because if you press that hard with multiple forecheckers and miss, you've often got an outmanmed situation going the other way, with multiple players needing to change direction and accelerate the opposite way.

I know their are a lot of statistical components that suggest that this result regression was to be expected, but that's just some of the systems stuff I've noticed.
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If that's the case, and I'll watch a little closer next game, the solution is to spread it out now. Instead of going up the wall for the bump back, stretch it out. I'm not talking Babcock like flip passes from the goal line. Stretching it out though will force teams to back off of the traditional breakout that Toronto wants to use.
Either that, or drop the winger down lower and the bump back should be to the defence that just started the breakout as opposed to the cutting forward in the middle.
 
That's a pretty misleading/dumb headline. The government has to give approval for when fans can come back, not some third party nobody has ever heard of.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
That's a pretty misleading/dumb headline. The government has to give approval for when fans can come back, not some third party nobody has ever heard of.
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Yeah, they followed up with this, I should have looked closer:

https://twitter.com/breakfasttv/status/1371810025140854789?s=19
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Yeah, they followed up with this, I should have looked closer:
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And now both tweets have been deleted hah. For the record I don't necessarily blame you for interpreting it the way you did, 95% of the replies seem to do so as well. It was a pretty irresponsible way for them to convey that message.

It should have very clearly said: an international 3rd party that holds absolutely no power anywhere says MLSE's plan to host fans meets their (meaningless) standards for when local/provincial/federal powers allow them to host fans (which definitely won't happen this season).

Granted, that's not as catchy.
 
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1371854385408540680

Guessing this is more about the Leafs possibly needing some roster flexibility in the next few weeks as opposed to them just being done with Vesey, but we'll see.

edit:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1371858235934830597
 
Zee said:
I can see someone claiming Vesey cause he's so cheap.
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I can see no-one claiming him cause he's garbage and Dubas having to do some juggling with the cap situation. Who's fault is that Kyle?
 
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
I can see someone claiming Vesey cause he's so cheap.
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I can see no-one claiming him cause he's garbage and Dubas having to do some juggling with the cap situation. Who's fault is that Kyle?
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He's only making 900k his entire hit is buried.  Where's the issue?
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1371861973256839170
https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1371862011995389961
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1371861986645045249
https://twitter.com/joshuakloke/status/1371862054865362944
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
I can see someone claiming Vesey cause he's so cheap.
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I can see no-one claiming him cause he's garbage and Dubas having to do some juggling with the cap situation. Who's fault is that Kyle?
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He's only making 900k his entire hit is buried.  Where's the issue?
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DuBAS suKS
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Vesey has also been playing mostly 4th line minutes and is on pace for an 82 game 14 goal pace, you could do worse for that cap hit like a Freddie the goat.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1371861973256839170
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There's very few players that this would make sense for, and none of them are rentals. So wonder if he's been having discussions about something bigger.
 
Zee said:
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
I can see someone claiming Vesey cause he's so cheap.
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I can see no-one claiming him cause he's garbage and Dubas having to do some juggling with the cap situation. Who's fault is that Kyle?
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He's only making 900k his entire hit is buried.  Where's the issue?
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Couldn't stick with Buffalo what does that tell you? The issue is when you fill spots with scrubs because of cap issues scrubs is exactly what you get. Said it a thousand times Dubas handcuffed this team. Question now is trying to fix it.
 
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