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2020 NHL Draft

CarltonTheBear said:
Nik said:
I think the thing about Amirov isn't so much a need/BPA thing, it's "Safe/Risky" thing. The way I'm reading it, this sounds like a riskier pick than I would have liked just in terms of this guy being a bit of an unknown. I still would have leaned best CHL centre available but it's not something to get worked up about.
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I feel like Mavrik Bourque or Hendrix Lapierre would have been the Leafs picks as "best CHL centre available" and neither of them have gone yet which might indicate the gap between Amirov and those guys.
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I think Zary was where I was leaning but in large part because I think the Leafs prospect system needs an injection of some safe-ish talent that solves an issue if the pick plays out. I think it's fair to say that since the Leafs' pick a lot of teams haven't looked for the safe option.
 
herman said:
Nik said:
I've been watching the Sportsnet broadcast all night and in no way would I describe the reaction to the Amirov pick as the Leafs being "slammed". They basically talked about it the way they did every pick.
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This might be in reference to a Twitter response (Colaiacovo for example) and everyone sort of has a different curation. My timeline is ecstatic.
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Colaiacovo has some weird takes on players.
 
I generally don't know what I'm supposed to do with the fact that the Flyer's draft pick's parents work at the Honda factory at Alliston and how that makes them a traditional hardworking hockey family.

Seriously, 99% of the stuff in between the picks is just straight up nonsense. Is there really not enough hockey to talk about?
 
Nik said:
I generally don't know what I'm supposed to do with the fact that the Flyer's draft pick's parents work at the Honda factory at Alliston and how that makes them a traditional hardworking hockey family.

Seriously, 99% of the stuff in between the picks is just straight up nonsense. Is there really not enough hockey to talk about?
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I guess not. 5 mins between picks is waaaay too long.
 
Nik said:
I generally don't know what I'm supposed to do with the fact that the Flyer's draft pick's parents work at the Honda factory at Alliston and how that makes them a traditional hardworking hockey family.

Seriously, 99% of the stuff in between the picks is just straight up nonsense. Is there really not enough hockey to talk about?
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He catches fish though.  I?m not sure if that is more indicative of NHL superstardom or if it is solving a Rubik?s cube?
 
Nik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik said:
I think the thing about Amirov isn't so much a need/BPA thing, it's "Safe/Risky" thing. The way I'm reading it, this sounds like a riskier pick than I would have liked just in terms of this guy being a bit of an unknown. I still would have leaned best CHL centre available but it's not something to get worked up about.
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I feel like Mavrik Bourque or Hendrix Lapierre would have been the Leafs picks as "best CHL centre available" and neither of them have gone yet which might indicate the gap between Amirov and those guys.
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I think Zary was where I was leaning but in large part because I think the Leafs prospect system needs an injection of some safe-ish talent that solves an issue if the pick plays out. I think it's fair to say that since the Leafs' pick a lot of teams haven't looked for the safe option.
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Amirov actually looks pretty safe for a 'skill' pick. Most of him is quite developed already offensively and defensively. The scouting reports suggest speed could improve and strength. He's already doing well against KHL opposition.
 
herman said:
Amirov actually looks pretty safe for a 'skill' pick. Most of him is quite developed already offensively and defensively. The scouting reports suggest speed could improve and strength. He's already doing well against KHL opposition.
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I'm always going to be a little skeptical about the "safety" of any pick from Europe where the message is "Don't worry about the fact that his scoring numbers are terrible in his draft year because he's playing against adults" because it probably means you're basing your in-game scouting on 3rd/4th line minutes as well as just the general scouting gap between CHL players and overseas guys.
 
Nik said:
I think Zary was where I was leaning but in large part because I think the Leafs prospect system needs an injection of some safe-ish talent that solves an issue if the pick plays out. I think it's fair to say that since the Leafs' pick a lot of teams haven't looked for the safe option.
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Zary would have been an interesting pick, yeah. Pronman had him ranked 11th. Calgary seemed to do well getting him while trading down twice.

I will say I have seen the word "safe" used with Amirov quite a few times in scouting reports. He seems to have a pretty solid all around game that will hopefully mean he's likely to make the NHL at some level of the line-up. I get he's not a centre but it's not like our wing prospect depth is all that great and when guys like Hyman and Johnsson and maybe even Mikheyev all depart the team in the next few years Amirov sounds like a guy in the Hyman/Robertson mould that will mesh well in our top-9.

A centre who could also move to wing if need be would sure have been nice, but Carolina probably screwed the Leafs plans in that regard.
 
herman said:
Guilt Trip said:
I just saw the instant analysis on TSN and they said he's smallish. Wtf. The kid is 6 feet tall so what are they talking about? I didn't hear Burke or others say anything about the smaller guys that went before him. Must be a Leaf thing. Sad.
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No it?s literally because the kid is Russian and they have no information.
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Even the NBC feed barely talked about him.
 
If we had found a way to get a second pick or fell back in the draft Barron would have been a guy I would have been good with selecting
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I get he's not a centre but it's not like our wing prospect depth is all that great and when guys like Hyman and Johnsson and maybe even Mikheyev all depart the team in the next few years Amirov sounds like a guy in the Hyman/Robertson mould that will mesh well in our top-9.
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Our wing prospect base isn't great but that's in large part because it's where the team itself is strongest with a lot of good young players. And, sure, some of them may move on within the next few years but that's where I get back to it being the easiest position to fill via free agency, especially when in a lot of situations the team's need is going to be "Who can be a contributor to this already stacked line" as opposed to needing to find someone to build a line around.

So it could be a good pick, I just don't think it's the direction I'd have gone in.
 
Nik said:
The panel saying "If you like your guy, go get him" and all but crazy to think you couldn't have traded down and picked up some stuff for a guy ranked as a 4th rounder in most places.
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Yeah I mean they could've traded down a crap ton of times and doubled their draft capital.
 
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