2021 Training Camp Thread

[Zee]

That was a long drawn out exhibition schedule let's get to the real games already!!

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/leafsnews/status/1348160829284347905
With Washington and New Jersey both losing their big ticket UFA goalies to sudden retirement, the chance to lose Aaron Dell to waivers has gone up significantly.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

https://twitter.com/leafsnews/status/1348160829284347905
With Washington and New Jersey both losing their big ticket UFA goalies to sudden retirement, the chance to lose Aaron Dell to waivers has gone up significantly.

Does anyone have a link of how the waivers work?

 

[herman]

Does anyone have a link of how the waivers work?

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2020/12/28/22202149/nhl-waivers-begin-today-how-does-this-affect-the-maple-leafs

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Does anyone have a link of how the waivers work?

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2020/12/28/22202149/nhl-waivers-begin-today-how-does-this-affect-the-maple-leafs

Thanks man!

 

[Highlander]

Happy New Year everyone. Hope everyone is safe, healthy and getting through these crappy times. Forgot the game was televised only caught the last 8 minutes. Like some thoughts and mostly curious how Lehtonen looked.

Lehtonen looked good to me. Positioning was good, made some nice passes, grabbed a couple of apples. Barabanov looked good in his limited role also. Vesey didn't do anything for me. Didn't really notice him. Simmonds got a few chances on the PP.  Brazeau is f'n huge. He's still very raw and hopefully a year on the Marlies helps him progress. Robertson can rip it as he did on his goal. He's taxi squad bound for now. Fun to watch though.

Lehtonen looked like advertised to me, for his first game on small ice, very competent, still think he scored on the Nylander goal and added an assist as well.  I like Boyd as well. Brazeau if he can improve his skating could be a find.  Starting to wonder if a Cambell/Dell combo could work.  Freddie didn't look great.  Perhaps we could glean a high draft pick for Fredo, he just doesn't seem to be the one we need.
Marner and Matthews on fire, not sure Jumbo is a fit as yet.  Good work by Engvall as well, scored a beauty.  Looks like wants a job.  Simmons was seen, Barbanov looks like a keeper.  Invisible to me were Vesey, Joey Anderson.
Looks like Lilejegren has improved and looked good defensively, also noticeable were Kivihalme, Dermott, Sandin, Hollowell.  The goat this season I predict will be Brodie.  Made a couple of bonehead plays and giveaways.  Hope he is better than advertised.

 

[Zee]

Happy New Year everyone. Hope everyone is safe, healthy and getting through these crappy times. Forgot the game was televised only caught the last 8 minutes. Like some thoughts and mostly curious how Lehtonen looked.

Lehtonen looked good to me. Positioning was good, made some nice passes, grabbed a couple of apples. Barabanov looked good in his limited role also. Vesey didn't do anything for me. Didn't really notice him. Simmonds got a few chances on the PP.  Brazeau is f'n huge. He's still very raw and hopefully a year on the Marlies helps him progress. Robertson can rip it as he did on his goal. He's taxi squad bound for now. Fun to watch though.

Lehtonen looked like advertised to me, for his first game on small ice, very competent, still think he scored on the Nylander goal and added an assist as well.  I like Boyd as well. Brazeau if he can improve his skating could be a find.  Starting to wonder if a Cambell/Dell combo could work.  Freddie didn't look great.  Perhaps we could glean a high draft pick for Fredo, he just doesn't seem to be the one we need.
Marner and Matthews on fire, not sure Jumbo is a fit as yet.  Good work by Engvall as well, scored a beauty.  Looks like wants a job.  Simmons was seen, Barbanov looks like a keeper.  Invisible to me were Vesey, Joey Anderson.
Looks like Lilejegren has improved and looked good defensively, also noticeable were Kivihalme, Dermott, Sandin, Hollowell.  The goat this season I predict will be Brodie.  Made a couple of bonehead plays and giveaways.  Hope he is better than advertised.

You're saying trade Freddie to NJ? Roll the bones!  What have I got to lose, I've only been hoping to see a Cup for 44 years or so.  Maybe a Campbell/Dell combo is the secret sauce we never knew we needed.

Of course this is all based on one game that wasn't even a game with their own teammates.  3 days!

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Does anyone have a link of how the waivers work?

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2020/12/28/22202149/nhl-waivers-begin-today-how-does-this-affect-the-maple-leafs

Ok, so if I'm reading correctly, the only way they don't have to waive Dell is if they keep 3 goalies as part of their 23 player roster.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Ok, so if I'm reading correctly, the only way they don't have to waive Dell is if they keep 3 goalies as part of their 23 player roster.

Yeah. And since the Leafs cap space means they can only carry a maximum roster of 21 players to start the season it's very unlikely they use that last spot to stash Dell at the expense of someone like Lehtonen.

Rosters are due tomorrow so we'll see what happens in the next day, it's out of Dubas' hands at this point. I wasn't too concerned about Washington grabbing him since they have guys like Copley and Vanecek who they seem comfortable with in a back-up role. Plus I'm guessing they still sign Craig Anderson, even if it's just for the taxi squad.

New Jersey though is more of a worry, they're definitely going to be grabbing someone on the waiver wire. I wonder if they'll prefer Louis Domingue though since he spent some time in their organization last year (granted his numbers weren't great). He was placed on waivers yesterday.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Ok, so if I'm reading correctly, the only way they don't have to waive Dell is if they keep 3 goalies as part of their 23 player roster.

Yeah. And since the Leafs cap space means they can only carry a maximum roster of 21 players to start the season it's very unlikely they use that last spot to stash Dell at the expense of someone like Lehtonen.

Rosters are due tomorrow so we'll see what happens in the next day, it's out of Dubas' hands at this point. I wasn't too concerned about Washington grabbing him since they have guys like Copley and Vanecek who they seem comfortable with in a back-up role. Plus I'm guessing they still sign Craig Anderson, even if it's just for the taxi squad.

New Jersey though is more of a worry, they're definitely going to be grabbing someone on the waiver wire. I wonder if they'll prefer Louis Domingue though since he spent some time in their organization last year (granted his numbers weren't great). He was placed on waivers yesterday.

Agree. Lehtonen is ahead of Dermott right now so it appears Dermott will be the 21st guy. He def won't clear waivers Of course the Leafs could surprise and put Vesey and/or Boyd on waivers as well. That will depend on how good they think either will contribute. If both cleared it would give them cap flexibility as they could send both down on days off. I guess we'll find out today or tomorrow.

 

[herman]

Waiver wire is going to get hammered today.

We'll see if anyone picked up herman favourites/RW playmakers Josh Ho-Sang and Seth Griffith.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/1348659835223625728
Most of the expected Marlies are headed to waivers for AHL or being loaned outright (see details link)
Notable cuts: Joey Anderson, Timothy Liljegren, Pierre Engvall
For Frank: Marincin is also cut

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1348663193359556608

Brodie is also taking Lehtonen's PP spot, which is weird. Guess we'll see what happens Wednesday.

 

[herman]

I don't think they were super confident in Lehtonen's NHL-rink defense or Dermott's RD rhythm

 

[Frank E]

https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/1348659835223625728
Most of the expected Marlies are headed to waivers for AHL or being loaned outright (see details link)
Notable cuts: Joey Anderson, Timothy Liljegren, Pierre Engvall
For Frank: Marincin is also cut

If Marincin were to make the team, it would be an indictment of what Dubas acquired over the summer.

So although I'm glad to see this, I'm not really surprised.

It's the Lehtonen thing that has me a little concerned, and I never thought Dermott looked any good at RHD.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1348668792948355073

I'm pretty sure when games start you're not going to see Brodie on the PP instead of the PK, so maybe that was more just about wanting to get Dermott some PK reps at practice.

First look at forward pairs on the PK: Hyman-Marner, Kerfoot-Mikheyev, Vesey-Barabanov... with Matthews and Spezza potentially playing FOGO roles on the 1st and 3rd units.

 

[Highlander]

Happy New Year everyone. Hope everyone is safe, healthy and getting through these crappy times. Forgot the game was televised only caught the last 8 minutes. Like some thoughts and mostly curious how Lehtonen looked.

Lehtonen looked good to me. Positioning was good, made some nice passes, grabbed a couple of apples. Barabanov looked good in his limited role also. Vesey didn't do anything for me. Didn't really notice him. Simmonds got a few chances on the PP.  Brazeau is f'n huge. He's still very raw and hopefully a year on the Marlies helps him progress. Robertson can rip it as he did on his goal. He's taxi squad bound for now. Fun to watch though.

Lehtonen looked like advertised to me, for his first game on small ice, very competent, still think he scored on the Nylander goal and added an assist as well.  I like Boyd as well. Brazeau if he can improve his skating could be a find.  Starting to wonder if a Cambell/Dell combo could work.  Freddie didn't look great.  Perhaps we could glean a high draft pick for Fredo, he just doesn't seem to be the one we need.
Marner and Matthews on fire, not sure Jumbo is a fit as yet.  Good work by Engvall as well, scored a beauty.  Looks like wants a job.  Simmons was seen, Barbanov looks like a keeper.  Invisible to me were Vesey, Joey Anderson.
Looks like Lilejegren has improved and looked good defensively, also noticeable were Kivihalme, Dermott, Sandin, Hollowell.  The goat this season I predict will be Brodie.  Made a couple of bonehead plays and giveaways.  Hope he is better than advertised.

You're saying trade Freddie to NJ? Roll the bones!  What have I got to lose, I've only been hoping to see a Cup for 44 years or so.  Maybe a Campbell/Dell combo is the secret sauce we never knew we needed.

Of course this is all based on one game that wasn't even a game with their own teammates.  3 days!

NJ could be a location for Fredo, but I was thinking Chicago or Hurricanes.

 

[Highlander]

Surprised at Engvall, however I didn't see the first period, but I thought he was strong and scored a beauty. Not sure whats up between Keefe and him.

 

[herman]

Waiver wire is going to get hammered today.

We'll see if anyone picked up herman favourites/RW playmakers Josh Ho-Sang and Seth Griffith.

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/1348684928364523524

edit: The tweet Carlton shared here is more complete.

 

[herman]

Surprised at Engvall, however I didn't see the first period, but I thought he was strong and scored a beauty. Not sure whats up between Keefe and him.

He makes 1.2M and has 7 games of waiver exemption left. He wasn't good enough to force management's hand out of asset flexibility.