2022-23 NHL Thread

[herman]

https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1601257902236258304
Another Oiler?s top-5 pick about to be thrown into the wood chipper for no reason

 

[dappleganger]

https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1601257902236258304
Another Oiler?s top-5 pick about to be thrown into the wood chipper for no reason

Weird teams aren't falling over themselves trying to acquire a player who isn't producing.

 

[Andy07]

Kerfoot straight up for Puljujarvi ?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I mean Puljujarvi is legit just struggling right now. 1 goal and 5 assists in 27 games is obviously not good enough. He'll need to take some of the blame there even if Edmonton hasn't exactly done him any favours with their development of him through the years.

Still, he screams of a player who could benefit a lot from a change of scenery. I wonder about a Kerfoot for Puljujarvi swap. Two players who are both probably at the end of their time with their current teams (with Kerfoot being a pending UFA and all) and have been struggling finding a place in their respective line-ups right now.

 

[L K]

As much as I'm ready to move on from Kerfoot, Puljujarvi is also making 3M.  Right at this minute Kerfoot is still a better player than Puljujarvi.  I'm fine with trading Kerfoot to have more cap space to add a more impactful top 6 winger/upgrade the defense but I'm not sure I would want to just swap them for a 500K savings.  I can't see Edmonton eating salary given their cap situation.  I do like the idea of acquiring him though.  Maybe he can't develop elsewhere but I think there are a lot of underlying skills that for whatever reason just haven't been developed in Edmonton.

 

[Andy07]

Puljujarvi is an interesting change of scenery candidate imo. He's still only 24, can skate, throws his body around and while his numbers are lacking this year, he's down to about 13 minutes per game, has a shooting percentage under 3% and still has a corsi well over 50% (albeit more OZ starts than Kerfoot). As for Kerfoot, despite playing multiple games in top 6, including on Matthews' wing, and averaging roughly 15 minutes, he has zero goals at even strength and a total of 6 primary assists. Puljujarvi has 4 primary assists and an actual even strength goal. I think it's worth a straight up swap for the Leafs, anyway, especially since he's still an RFA next year.

 

[herman]

He's a Zach Hyman candidate being sunk by expectations (big, moves well, high pick, why aren't you scoring?) and lack of developmental support (recall the Wilson/Carlyle era Leafs style of development). He has better puck skills than Hyman started with, but probably needs a lot of support in drilling how to think the game with more forethought (hockey sense). It can be developed, or at least emulated until it's effective because of reducing processing time to the point it is automated, a la Hyman.

Plug him onto Tavares' wing if can swing a deal for him, until Matt Knies reaches prime time.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Plug him onto Tavares' wing if can swing a deal for him, until Matt Knies reaches prime time.

Even if he doesn't work out as a top-6 option, him and Engvall would be an intriguing duo on the 3rd line... which also puts Engvall back on the left side where he's probably more comfortable.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Boston lost to Arizona tonight, indisputably proving that nothing really matters.

 

[L K]

Boston lost to Arizona tonight, indisputably proving that nothing really matters.

Looks like they got screwed on that last play.  That looked like icing to me.

But it?s also hilarious that they lost to Arizona because Boston fans had no problem mocking us for losing to them.

Also Nee Jersey and Boston both lost?is that allowed to happen?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/nhlplayersafety/status/1601657162958536704

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1602024792185520134

It's crazy how Tolvanen was once considered one of the top prospects in the league, to the point where many felt like he'd be a massive addition to the Preds playoff team back in 2018 when he first came to the NHL after his KHL season ended. He's kinda been a very under the radar bust. Wonder if another team can salvage anything there.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1602024792185520134

It's crazy how Tolvanen was once considered one of the top prospects in the league, to the point where many felt like he'd be a massive addition to the Preds playoff team back in 2018 when he first came to the NHL after his KHL season ended. He's kinda been a very under the radar bust. Wonder if another team can salvage anything there.

https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1602025118879842305
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1602378162150703106
Wow he made it pretty far down the list

 

[Frank E]

Thank you for posting that, herman.

So Tolvanen went through 2/3 of the league before he was taken.

 

[herman]

Thank you for posting that, herman.

So Tolvanen went through 2/3 of the league before he was taken.

Yep. Once highly touted scorer relegated to 4th line wing, still scoring more now with limited minutes. I can see why the top 5 on the waiver list might be looking to not score goals, but he is also free deadline draft pick fuel if too successful. Some bubble contenders are short on cap space. Seattle did well to take advantage.

 

[bustaheims]

Yep. Once highly touted scorer relegated to 4th line wing, still scoring more now with limited minutes. I can see why the top 5 on the waiver list might be looking to not score goals, but he is also free deadline draft pick fuel if too successful. Some bubble contenders are short on cap space. Seattle did well to take advantage.

There are some wrinkles to trading a player claimed off waivers that season. If any other teams put in claims, they?d have to pass on him for a trade to go through. If he?s doing well, any team who put in a claim and in the playoff hunt would take him for free.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/ericengels/status/1602431070925996032

https://twitter.com/rickrowley3/status/1601639413133742081

 

[herman]

Yep. Once highly touted scorer relegated to 4th line wing, still scoring more now with limited minutes. I can see why the top 5 on the waiver list might be looking to not score goals, but he is also free deadline draft pick fuel if too successful. Some bubble contenders are short on cap space. Seattle did well to take advantage.

There are some wrinkles to trading a player claimed off waivers that season. If any other teams put in claims, they?d have to pass on him for a trade to go through. If he?s doing well, any team who put in a claim and in the playoff hunt would take him for free.

Wait the what? I have not heard of this wrinkle!

 

[bustaheims]

Yep. Once highly touted scorer relegated to 4th line wing, still scoring more now with limited minutes. I can see why the top 5 on the waiver list might be looking to not score goals, but he is also free deadline draft pick fuel if too successful. Some bubble contenders are short on cap space. Seattle did well to take advantage.

There are some wrinkles to trading a player claimed off waivers that season. If any other teams put in claims, they?d have to pass on him for a trade to go through. If he?s doing well, any team who put in a claim and in the playoff hunt would take him for free.

Wait the what? I have not heard of this wrinkle!

It doesn?t come up often, because players claimed off waivers generally don?t end up having great trade value - but it?s basically in place to prevent teams at the bottom of the standings from doing exactly what you suggest on a mass scale.

 

[Arn]

I used to get the NHL On The Fly show via my TV package but they seem to have dropped it. Is there anywhere online that has a round up type show or is it just a case of having to pick through individual game highlights?

I've now managed to obtain access to the NHL Network, so my wider NHL knowledge is about to be better than ever