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2022-23 NHL Thread

I know logic with this stuff went out the window a long, long, long, long time ago, but how on earth did Brock Nelson get selected for the NHL ASG over Mat Barzal? Barzal even has more points than him!
 
Clayton Keller fined 5k for the thing Matthews got two games for.  The NHL really does try hard to be a joke
 
https://twitter.com/capfriendly/status/1614703358161620992
After Carolina got dragged for not re-signing Ned?

https://twitter.com/ineffectivemath/status/1614713812992630786
Might be a team issue, rather than player?
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/capfriendly/status/1614703358161620992
After Carolina got dragged for not re-signing Ned?

https://twitter.com/ineffectivemath/status/1614713812992630786
Might be a team issue, rather than player?

I mean isn't Husso not doing great either? The team is too run and gun.
 
It'll be interesting to see if this story has any legs. Obviously the Flyers are largely irrelevant but all of the politics(which is a word I hesitate to use as this shouldn't be a political issue)d aside this seems to sort of be violating what we're always told is the cardinal sin for a hockey player of going against the team and creating a distraction.
 
Sounds like this was a religious beliefs issues (He's Russian Orthodox) - which, while I understand the pressure there, I don't agree with. Is it really that big a deal to put on a sweater and skate around the ice for a bit? I mean, one of the core principles of Christianity is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated. Also, the whole "love thy neighbour" thing and not passing judgment on others and such. Seems to me like he's going against more of the principles of his religion than he's abiding by.
 
bustaheims said:
Sounds like this was a religious beliefs issues (He's Russian Orthodox) - which, while I understand the pressure there, I don't agree with. Is it really that big a deal to put on a sweater and skate around the ice for a bit? I mean, one of the core principles of Christianity is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated. Also, the whole "love thy neighbour" thing and not passing judgment on others and such. Seems to me like he's going against more of the principles of his religion than he's abiding by.

Even beyond that I think we all sort of acknowledge that whatever respect we may have for someone's religious beliefs there's an expectation of putting them aside if you're pursuing something like hockey as a career. Like, there are various faiths that prohibit alcohol drinking with much clearer theological justification than what we're dealing with here but I think we all agree that if a Mormon or Muslim player refused, say, to play hockey if there were any advertisements for beer in the stadium we'd effectively think that player was not being professional.
 
I grew up Ukranian Orthodox (I'm very much not anymore), its ever so subtly more progressive than Russian Orthodox but not by much.  Homophobia is pretty rampant within the Orthodox Church and it has been drastically worse in the Russian Orthodox Church as they have become an increasingly more political branch of the Putin regime.  So it's not surprising that Provorov is a homophobic donkey.

I do find it funny that the NHL backed down on a diversity supported job expo in Florida when DeSantis put on his Trump mask this week.  The NHL came out today tacitly supporting Provorov's ability to support this behaviour....and his head coach was one of the idiots screaming about professionalism around players kneeling for the National anthem (Torts did backtrack on it later).

The NHL is for everyone....you know except for when we actually need to show it.
 
I still wonder why people think there is a god (which one? humans have invented thousands) when there has been zero empirical evidence ever provided for any of those claims. Then they use this and their religious beliefs and doctrine to do and say real crappy things to others. It blows my mind tbh.
 
bustaheims said:
Sounds like this was a religious beliefs issues (He's Russian Orthodox) - which, while I understand the pressure there, I don't agree with. Is it really that big a deal to put on a sweater and skate around the ice for a bit? I mean, one of the core principles of Christianity is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated. Also, the whole "love thy neighbour" thing and not passing judgment on others and such. Seems to me like he's going against more of the principles of his religion than he's abiding by.

Provorov should abstain from playing in the NHL until the NHL denounces their sports betting partnerships, imo.
 
You guys forget that here in the US our "Supreme" Court is quite adept at inventing excuses for religious people to use their "sincerely held beliefs" to discriminate against anyone they don't like. 

It's "freedom of religion"!  Doncha see
 
Nik said:
bustaheims said:
Sounds like this was a religious beliefs issues (He's Russian Orthodox) - which, while I understand the pressure there, I don't agree with. Is it really that big a deal to put on a sweater and skate around the ice for a bit? I mean, one of the core principles of Christianity is to treat others the way you'd like to be treated. Also, the whole "love thy neighbour" thing and not passing judgment on others and such. Seems to me like he's going against more of the principles of his religion than he's abiding by.

Even beyond that I think we all sort of acknowledge that whatever respect we may have for someone's religious beliefs there's an expectation of putting them aside if you're pursuing something like hockey as a career. Like, there are various faiths that prohibit alcohol drinking with much clearer theological justification than what we're dealing with here but I think we all agree that if a Mormon or Muslim player refused, say, to play hockey if there were any advertisements for beer in the stadium we'd effectively think that player was not being professional.

This is my point of view as well. I hope not to offend anyone here, but I had a similar experience to the alcohol example. I used to compete in martial arts tournaments and many of those practitioners were Muslim. Most would refuse to bow to their opponents or judges based on the teaching of the Koran. I didn't really care, but some people would get irate due to the perceived slight. While I understand the strongly held conviction that one should not bow to any other than Allah, it seemed like it'd be perfectly ok in the guise of sportsmanship.
 

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