2022 NHL Draft Discussion

[bustaheims]

Provided you can still get a reasonable approximation of the sort of player I think the Leafs should take in the early 2nd round then I'm coming around to the ideat that they should probably trade down. They need bodies at this point and if the deal is there to add a late 2nd/early 3rd I just don't know if there's enough value to stick at #25.

Agreed. I'm not sure the value difference between picking at 25 or, say, 28 is significant - especially not if you can add a 2nd round pick as part of that move (or, if Dubas can work some real magic, trade with Arizona to pick up 27 and 32 . . . as unlikely as that may be).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Agreed. I'm not sure the value difference between picking at 25 or, say, 28 is significant - especially not if you can add a 2nd round pick as part of that move (or, if Dubas can work some real magic, trade with Arizona to pick up 27 and 32 . . . as unlikely as that may be).

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

Buffalo (28th and 74th) or Winnipeg (30th and 77th) could be options for trading down just a few spots. There's LOTS of teams with multiple 2nd rounders if they wanted to go down further and pick up two of those instead. Arizona, along with having 27 and 32 also has: 34, 36, 43, 45. Seattle has 4 2nd rounders, including Toronto's. Montreal, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, and Ottawa all have a pair of 2nd rounders.

So yeah considering the options out there and how few picks the Leafs have and how wide of range this draft class seems to be barring someone the Leafs would have ranked in the teens or something dropping (Lambert?) I think they should definitely be looking at moving back and adding another pick.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Also Arizona and Seattle have so many goddamn 2nds surely they wouldn't notice if Dubas took one for Kerfoot.

 

[bustaheims]

Agreed. I'm not sure the value difference between picking at 25 or, say, 28 is significant - especially not if you can add a 2nd round pick as part of that move (or, if Dubas can work some real magic, trade with Arizona to pick up 27 and 32 . . . as unlikely as that may be).

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

Buffalo (28th and 74th) or Winnipeg (30th and 77th) could be options for trading down just a few spots. There's LOTS of teams with multiple 2nd rounders if they wanted to go down further and pick up two of those instead. Arizona, along with having 27 and 32 also has: 34, 36, 43, 45. Seattle has 4 2nd rounders, including Toronto's. Montreal, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, and Ottawa all have a pair of 2nd rounders.

So yeah considering the options out there and how few picks the Leafs have and how wide of range this draft class seems to be barring someone the Leafs would have ranked in the teens or something dropping (Lambert?) I think they should definitely be looking at moving back and adding another pick.

Yeah. Getting the two 1sts is likely a pipedream, but with the lack of consensus opinions on this draft, it's harder to peg prices to move.

 

[clark17]

Agreed. I'm not sure the value difference between picking at 25 or, say, 28 is significant - especially not if you can add a 2nd round pick as part of that move (or, if Dubas can work some real magic, trade with Arizona to pick up 27 and 32 . . . as unlikely as that may be).

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

Buffalo (28th and 74th) or Winnipeg (30th and 77th) could be options for trading down just a few spots. There's LOTS of teams with multiple 2nd rounders if they wanted to go down further and pick up two of those instead. Arizona, along with having 27 and 32 also has: 34, 36, 43, 45. Seattle has 4 2nd rounders, including Toronto's. Montreal, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, and Ottawa all have a pair of 2nd rounders.

So yeah considering the options out there and how few picks the Leafs have and how wide of range this draft class seems to be barring someone the Leafs would have ranked in the teens or something dropping (Lambert?) I think they should definitely be looking at moving back and adding another pick.

    Truly it?s a matter of assessment. If there?s Someone there that is highly rated jump on it.  If you know you can get the player you have rated highest available later then trade Down. 
    In 2014 Tampa traded the 80 th pick and a 7th the next year for pick 79.  They took point and that was one of the most awesome moves ever made at a draft.  Hope Tml get someone they have correctly assessed as a real player whichever way they go. 

 

[ZBBM]

 

Those pictures are deepfakes.

 

[herman]

Also Arizona and Seattle have so many goddamn 2nds surely they wouldn't notice if Dubas took one for Kerfoot.

Yeah, I think it's more likely this than trading down. Both of those teams need live bodies to play this coming season.

 

[ZBBM]

Agreed. I'm not sure the value difference between picking at 25 or, say, 28 is significant - especially not if you can add a 2nd round pick as part of that move (or, if Dubas can work some real magic, trade with Arizona to pick up 27 and 32 . . . as unlikely as that may be).

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

Buffalo (28th and 74th) or Winnipeg (30th and 77th) could be options for trading down just a few spots. There's LOTS of teams with multiple 2nd rounders if they wanted to go down further and pick up two of those instead. Arizona, along with having 27 and 32 also has: 34, 36, 43, 45. Seattle has 4 2nd rounders, including Toronto's. Montreal, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, and Ottawa all have a pair of 2nd rounders.

So yeah considering the options out there and how few picks the Leafs have and how wide of range this draft class seems to be barring someone the Leafs would have ranked in the teens or something dropping (Lambert?) I think they should definitely be looking at moving back and adding another pick.

    Truly it?s a matter of assessment. If there?s Someone there that is highly rated jump on it.  If you know you can get the player you have rated highest available later then trade Down. 
    In 2014 Tampa traded the 80 th pick and a 7th the next year for pick 79.  They took point and that was one of the most awesome moves ever made at a draft.  Hope Tml get someone they have correctly assessed as a real player whichever way they go.

I think this is the perfect draft to trade down.  The covid disruptions, and now the Putin disruptions ... it's not a crapshoot, but there are even more unknowable unknowns than normal.  Adding a couple more picks gives you two more chances at the next Point.  Or even the next 4th-liner who actually scores a g/d goal in the playoffs yaknow?

 

[Kin]

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

I feel like Arizona is a good target in that regard. Aiming for something like #25 for #36 and #45 would be aiming high, no doubt, but Arizona has so many picks you really do wonder if they might get a little woozy.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

When they traded from 25 to 29 in 2019 to get Sandin they picked up the 76th pick in the process. So I imagine the options are trade down a few spots like that and get a 3rd in return or trade out of the 1st round entirely to get a pair of 2nds.

I feel like Arizona is a good target in that regard. Aiming for something like #25 for #36 and #45 would be aiming high, no doubt, but Arizona has so many picks you really do wonder if they might get a little woozy.

Yeah 43 and 45 is probably more likely. Although maybe one of those picks moves up to 34 or 36 if Kerfoot, who they could probably flip for a 2nd or 3rd at the deadline and only costs $750k, is added.

 

[Kin]

Wow. Bobby Mack doesn't miss.

 

[herman]

Good drama, this

 

[Kin]

A solid 30 seconds there of watching the 20 random people the Devils inexplicably have on stage arrange themselves in the right order, before Martin Brodeur thanks the Canadiens, shouts out the Devils draft party and introduces someone else to make the pick.

Never change, NHL. It's like you're allergic to entertaining TV.

 

[herman]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8kGxgRFHXPc

 

[bustaheims]

I?m sure this pick will work out just as well as the last time Montreal took the late riser with a top 3 pick?

 

[herman]

It?s boring but I love this mess

 

[Bill_Berg]

Maybe Wright will drop to the Leafs. 

 

[Kin]

Whenever I hear someone talk about the Seattle team now I can't help but hear the team name as Seattle Crackin'

God bless Ronnie Franchise, no fuss, no muss. Just makes the pick.

 

[Deebo]

A solid 30 seconds there of watching the 20 random people the Devils inexplicably have on stage arrange themselves in the right order, before Martin Brodeur thanks the Canadiens, shouts out the Devils draft party and introduces someone else to make the pick.

Never change, NHL. It's like you're allergic to entertaining TV.

That guy for the Coyotes talked for SO long.

 

[Zee]

JFJ looked pretty good up there.