So pretty much what we already knew.
2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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That’s interesting and thanks for sharing but man… Kadri, or I guess Dan Robson, is not a good writer.
herman
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Ghostwritten from interviews is my guess.
Frank E
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herman
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Meanness is a bit implied in the term, but there are varieties of assholery that work. Bennett is an initiator, while ours are more reactive (outside of Domi).
My favourite ones are like Leo Komarov and Joel Eriksson-Ek; they just plant themselves in your kitchen, drink your favourite beverages in your face, eat the slice of cake you were saving, and leave all the dishes (if they bothered to use any) on the table. You can say whatever you want to them, but they just stare blankly past your head and hear nothing.
Yes, we need those guys........... in Toronto the Good we call them "Assholes" and they get run out of town. And we lose.
..... in other markets, we call guys like Tkachuk and Cousins and Kreider and Kadri "Leaders". And they win.
I believe the Leafs issue for 57 years is Toronto Culture. Too nice.
Fans are too nice (fans in other markets would never accept amost 6 decades of losing if it was the mecca of the sport). So the product on the ice reflects what the fans are willing to accept.
bustaheims
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Getting suspended when your team needs you most doesn't make you a leader. Looking at you, Nazem.
Too nice? I mean we revered Wendel and Dougie. I don't recall them getting "run out of town." I guess Larry Murphy must've been the biggest asshole around.
bustaheims
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Domi was also very much revered here for most of his tenure as a Leaf. Same with Tucker.
It has nothing to do with guys being assholes or not. It's about whether they can be/are still effective when it matters most - and most of these types that we've seen with the Leafs have not been.
I like how you completely gloss over how Kadri got suspended repeatedly in the playoffs. And the fans had absolutely nothing to do with ‘running him out of town’
Yeah being not a nice fan base has really helped the flyers get a cup in the last 50 years.
herman
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True, but those suspensions had a significant whiff of BS
bustaheims
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Doesn't matter. A leader knows when they have to hold back to not put themselves at risk. On both occasions, he went too far. Whether they deserved the extent of the suspensions he earned is debatable, but neither of those incidents should have played out as they did.
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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The last great Leaf team that made the conference finals was the '01-'02 Leafs.
Domi
Tucker
Corson
Green
Roberts
McCabe
Yushkevich
Belak
Hardly a group of "nice guys".
Shortly after that, we entered the Black Hole Era until Matthews, Marner, Rielly and Nylander were drafted. Then we entered the great regular season team that can't win in the playoffs. Teams that are smaller, faster and skill based.
Domi
Tucker
Corson
Green
Roberts
McCabe
Yushkevich
Belak
Hardly a group of "nice guys".
Shortly after that, we entered the Black Hole Era until Matthews, Marner, Rielly and Nylander were drafted. Then we entered the great regular season team that can't win in the playoffs. Teams that are smaller, faster and skill based.