2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[dappleganger]

I have to strongly disagree with this. Marchand engineered that trade specifically to Florida. They traded a 2nd round pick. That’s it. I’m sure there are other examples that prove your point better, but Marchand is not it.

Leafs gave up more for both Laughton and Carlo.

 

[rdowdall]

Look how many picks Tampa has dealt over the past decade and they’re still doing well. Probably the last impact player they’ve drafted is Ross Colton almost a decade ago. It’s not about trading or not trading picks or prospects. And almost every top team does that to try to improve. Lots of the Leafs plays didn’t work out, but had they won any of these incredibly close series and done something maybe we look back on them differently. The margins have been so slim a lot of the time.

Okay I get what you are saying. They have been close. They have been to the final four four times since 1967, and in each of those they came up short. The closest was probably the year against the Kings and the defining moment in that series was the missed call on Gretzky.

Again, I know that there have been different regimes, but the stars never seem to align for this team. There is always something that we as fans can point to and say "Oh if only that had gone differently". Why have there been so many "Oh if only that had gone differently" for this team? The Red Sox, Cubs, Lions, Bills, English soccer have all or are going through something similar. The thing the Leafs have to figure out is why can't they get the stars to align. Easier said than done I realize, but still. At some point in 60 years, something should have clicked. Maybe they try drafting a dman other than Morgan Rielly sometime.

 

[Joe S.]

Leafs gave up more for both Laughton and Carlo.

That’s my point. This was clearly a favour for Florida. No one else was getting this deal.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That’s my point. This was clearly a favour for Florida. No one else was getting this deal.

And for whatever it's worth the pick was upgraded to a 1st rounder once Florida won 2 playoff rounds.

 

[Bender]

Okay I get what you are saying. They have been close. They have been to the final four four times since 1967, and in each of those they came up short. The closest was probably the year against the Kings and the defining moment in that series was the missed call on Gretzky.

Again, I know that there have been different regimes, but the stars never seem to align for this team. There is always something that we as fans can point to and say "Oh if only that had gone differently". Why have there been so many "Oh if only that had gone differently" for this team? The Red Sox, Cubs, Lions, Bills, English soccer have all or are going through something similar. The thing the Leafs have to figure out is why can't they get the stars to align. Easier said than done I realize, but still. At some point in 60 years, something should have clicked. Maybe they try drafting a dman other than Morgan Rielly sometime.

Well they did try that with Stuart Percy

 

[dappleganger]

And for whatever it's worth the pick was upgraded to a 1st rounder once Florida won 2 playoff rounds.

So it became the 32nd pick overall?