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Armchair GM Thread 2020-2021

herman said:
Let's say it's July 13, the Leafs have no cap space to land any big RD fish, even after trading out a 3ishM winger for picks and parts.

Is Cody Ceci a no-brainer to bring back on a 1-yr 700k to 1M deal for a third pair-PK role?

I'd be a yes. Is this situation likely to play out... maybe!
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https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1252602235890159618

I would.
 
herman said:
herman said:
Let's say it's July 13, the Leafs have no cap space to land any big RD fish, even after trading out a 3ishM winger for picks and parts.

Is Cody Ceci a no-brainer to bring back on a 1-yr 700k to 1M deal for a third pair-PK role?

I'd be a yes. Is this situation likely to play out... maybe!
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I would.
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The PK side of things isn't great, and he's a black hole on offence. I think there will be better options (or, at least, ones with less baggage) available.

Side note: Man, Zaitsev is terrible.
 
Do I think Ceci at $700k to play 3rd pair + PK minutes is a bad deal? Not necessarily. But it would almost certainly come at the expense of playing Liljegren and I'd rather give him a fair shot at that.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Do I think Ceci at $700k to play 3rd pair + PK minutes is a bad deal? Not necessarily. But it would almost certainly come at the expense of playing Liljegren and I'd rather give him a fair shot at that.
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I agree, but I also don't mind sheltering Liljegren for longer. He made huge strides in the AHL but was still a bit of a liability in NHL minutes. Sandin is already earmarked for that role, so how many can our cap-strapped roster support at once? If Ceci wants to Ennis himself in Toronto one more time, I'm here for it; maybe spin him off at the deadline for real (barring injury) if Liljegren overtakes Ceci by then.
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Do I think Ceci at $700k to play 3rd pair + PK minutes is a bad deal? Not necessarily. But it would almost certainly come at the expense of playing Liljegren and I'd rather give him a fair shot at that.
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I agree, but I also don't mind sheltering Liljegren for longer. He made huge strides in the AHL but was still a bit of a liability in NHL minutes. Sandin is already earmarked for that role, so how many can our cap-strapped roster support at once? If Ceci wants to Ennis himself in Toronto one more time, I'm here for it; maybe spin him off at the deadline for real (barring injury) if Liljegren overtakes Ceci by then.
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Ceci > Marincin
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Do I think Ceci at $700k to play 3rd pair + PK minutes is a bad deal? Not necessarily. But it would almost certainly come at the expense of playing Liljegren and I'd rather give him a fair shot at that.
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I agree, but I also don't mind sheltering Liljegren for longer. He made huge strides in the AHL but was still a bit of a liability in NHL minutes. Sandin is already earmarked for that role, so how many can our cap-strapped roster support at once? If Ceci wants to Ennis himself in Toronto one more time, I'm here for it; maybe spin him off at the deadline for real (barring injury) if Liljegren overtakes Ceci by then.
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If you got a guy like Ceci at 700K to play on the 3rd pair, that's still a pretty solid deal.  The best part about it would be that if Liljegren took his NHL experience and developed the next step in his game, you can also have him as the 7th defenseman or bury him in another organization/the AHL if Timothy was NHL ready.
 
I think Ceci gets 3M easily on the open market, probably even 6M from... Winnipeg, let?s say.
 
herman said:
I think Ceci gets 3M easily on the open market, probably even 6M from... Winnipeg, let?s say.
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I will laugh mightily if any team signs him for significantly more than $2M per.
 
I think Dubas is going to have to try another bold move on defense this summer.  It didn't work out well last go-round, but I think he has to try again.

I don't think they can piece together anything interesting with the current bunch, and I don't think Barrie is in the plans...nor should he be.  They've only got another 2 seasons of Rielly on the affordable deal.
 
Frycer14 said:
I can already feel the hate, but Chara, 2yrs, 2.5M. Even with raise and mulityear, doubt he'd leave boston tho.
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Yeah, I doubt he moves. Also two years is a bit of a non-starter for me (and he's left side).
But how wild would it be to have Spezza and Chara on the Leafs.
 
princedpw said:
Frycer14 said:
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2021/caphit/all/defense

Happy shopping
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Ryan Pulock
Brandon Montour
Radko Gudas
Kevin Shattenkirk

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Pulock and Montour are both not great defensively, and are going to be too expensive because of their offensive abilities. Shattenkirk will be coming off a great year on a cheap deal - he?ll be looking to get paid. Gudas has been trending downwards for a couple seasons now - a cheap, one year deal might work, but nothing significant.
 
I?d be looking at guys like Justin Braun, Trevor van Riemsdyk, or Mackenzie Weegar. Not the sexiest of names, but guys who might come cheap and provide some defensive stability
 
bustaheims said:
I?d be looking at guys like Justin Braun, Trevor van Riemsdyk, or Mackenzie Weegar. Not the sexiest of names, but guys who might come cheap and provide some defensive stability
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I don't know busta...there's a big hole on the right side in the top 4.

I think they need something sexy up in there.
 
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