bustaheims
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Frank E said:
Maybe, but that guy is not coming as a UFA signing.
Armchair GM Thread 2020-2021
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Maybe, but that guy is not coming as a UFA signing.
Just for a reference, let's say hypothetically speaking we traded Johnsson, Dermott, and Mikheyev all for an upgrade on defence. That defenceman could only have about a $4.5-4.75mil cap hit if the cap stays flat (which pretty much seems like a certainty now).
edit: you could push that into the low 5s if the team runs just a 20 man roster.
edit: you could push that into the low 5s if the team runs just a 20 man roster.
herman said:
I think Larsson is a guy who is likely on the move and could be a good fit here, but I'm pretty wary of dealing another forward with a few years of control like Johnsson for a defenceman with just 1 year left before UFA.
Phileas Fogg
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CarltonTheBear said:
Holy crap. So basically, even with these three players and Ceci's salary gone, with everyone that we have currently under contract, the leafs only have 5ish to spend with all the gaps that exist also still open?
Frank E
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, but is really going to see a raise on the $4m he's making? I'd have to think he wouldn't be too hard to retain at a reasonable figure...hell, maybe it's a good thing his deal is only for 1 year given nobody knows what the cap is going to look like moving forward.
herman
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Swiss left-shooting 24 year old centre Pius Suter of the Zurich Lions is exercising his NHL out-clause and is expected to sign with a team for the upcoming season. He most recently posed 30 goals and 23 assists in 50 games.
herman said:
Admittedly I don't know what the state of Swiss hockey is right now, but I find it interesting that any European (other than the ones who made commitments pre-covid) would choose to come over here for next season considering how hectic it's going to be.
Highlander
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Imagine having a Hall, a Holl and a Woll on one team. 
Let's do a quick update on the team from the first post, which essentially represents the boring version of what next years team probably looks like:
Johnsson-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev*-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Robertson-Engvall-Barabanov
Rielly-Dermott*
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Marincin
Andersen
Campbell
Everyone in this line-up has a contract except for Mikheyev and Dermott. There's $2.7mil in cap space to split between the two. Let's say they both get pushed into short-term $1.25mil because of the flat cap.
That gives us $200k in cap space with a 21 man roster. No Spezza, and our defence looks kinda not great.
There's of course ways to create cap space here. With Robertson's emergence and the depth that provides on the left wing, a Johnsson trade feels pretty inevitable. So let's pop him out and replace him with Spezza (or someone else, but let's say Spezza) at $700k.
That gives us a 21 man roster with $2.9mil in cap space. We could do two things with that: sign Mikheyev and/or Dermott to longer and slightly more expensive deals. Or we could still strong-arm them into cheap deals and use the cap space to do something with our defence. One of Marincin or Liljegren would get bumped off the roster (other being the 7D) so that gives us about $3.5mil to spend on a (preferably) RHD.
There's still two more fairly simple ways to create some more space. First would be trading Dermott. The reasoning here would be any defenceman we sign would probably take that RHD spot alongside Rielly so Dermott would get bumped down to the 3rd pairing and ideally Liljegren is ready to take that role at a slightly reduced price. The second would be moving Kapanen and hoping that Barabanov is ready to take that role at a reduced price. Doing so would give us a line-up of something like this:
Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Barabanov
Engvall-Spezza-Korshkov
Rielly-______
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Marincin
Andersen
Campbell
That roster has $6.4mil in cap space available for that RHD who is either signed in free agency or acquired from the Johnsson/Kapanen/Dermott trades. The cap space could go up or down slightly depending on if Petan or Agostino or Brooks takes that last forward spot instead of Korshkov, or if Lehtonen takes the 7D spot instead of Marincin.
Ideally, that defenceman doesn't come in at more than $5.5mil because then we could also have enough cap space to carry a 13th forward through what will likely be a pretty compressed schedule.
So TLDR there is a route to acquire another $5-6mil type defenceman that doesn't require us to blow up the top-4.
Johnsson-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev*-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Robertson-Engvall-Barabanov
Rielly-Dermott*
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Marincin
Andersen
Campbell
Everyone in this line-up has a contract except for Mikheyev and Dermott. There's $2.7mil in cap space to split between the two. Let's say they both get pushed into short-term $1.25mil because of the flat cap.
That gives us $200k in cap space with a 21 man roster. No Spezza, and our defence looks kinda not great.
There's of course ways to create cap space here. With Robertson's emergence and the depth that provides on the left wing, a Johnsson trade feels pretty inevitable. So let's pop him out and replace him with Spezza (or someone else, but let's say Spezza) at $700k.
That gives us a 21 man roster with $2.9mil in cap space. We could do two things with that: sign Mikheyev and/or Dermott to longer and slightly more expensive deals. Or we could still strong-arm them into cheap deals and use the cap space to do something with our defence. One of Marincin or Liljegren would get bumped off the roster (other being the 7D) so that gives us about $3.5mil to spend on a (preferably) RHD.
There's still two more fairly simple ways to create some more space. First would be trading Dermott. The reasoning here would be any defenceman we sign would probably take that RHD spot alongside Rielly so Dermott would get bumped down to the 3rd pairing and ideally Liljegren is ready to take that role at a slightly reduced price. The second would be moving Kapanen and hoping that Barabanov is ready to take that role at a reduced price. Doing so would give us a line-up of something like this:
Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Barabanov
Engvall-Spezza-Korshkov
Rielly-______
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
Marincin
Andersen
Campbell
That roster has $6.4mil in cap space available for that RHD who is either signed in free agency or acquired from the Johnsson/Kapanen/Dermott trades. The cap space could go up or down slightly depending on if Petan or Agostino or Brooks takes that last forward spot instead of Korshkov, or if Lehtonen takes the 7D spot instead of Marincin.
Ideally, that defenceman doesn't come in at more than $5.5mil because then we could also have enough cap space to carry a 13th forward through what will likely be a pretty compressed schedule.
So TLDR there is a route to acquire another $5-6mil type defenceman that doesn't require us to blow up the top-4.
Guilt Trip
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Don't forget about Mikko Lehtonen, who can play both right and left D, that the Leafs signed what seems like years ago. He may factor into the D. I do agree though that one or both of Johnnson/Kappy will probably be gone. I think if Dubas could trade Nylander for say a Dumba type, he will. Not sure Dumba is the answer but he'd help.CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Yeah I made a quick mention of him at the end. If he makes the team I'd imagine it's more at the expense of Liljegren (or maybe they rotate) so I don't think it'll change the fact that the Leafs need someone to play the right side with Rielly.
As for Dumba, he's just a different Barrie. Not the answer.
herman
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Qualifying Offers for Leaf players that 'matter' per CapFriendly
Dermott, Travis LD $832,500 x 1.05 = $874,125
Gauthier, Fr?d?rik C $700,000 x 1.05 = $735,000
Malgin, Denis RW, C $750,000 x 1.05 = $787,500
Mikheyev, Ilya LW, RW $832,500 x 1.05 = $874,125
Did I do this right?
Narrator: he did not
Dermott, Travis LD $832,500 x 1.05 = $874,125
Gauthier, Fr?d?rik C $700,000 x 1.05 = $735,000
Malgin, Denis RW, C $750,000 x 1.05 = $787,500
Mikheyev, Ilya LW, RW $832,500 x 1.05 = $874,125
Did I do this right?
Narrator: he did not
herman
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I'm not sure how the KHL loans work (Lehtonen, Korshkov, presumably Barabanov and possibly even Mikheyev) in terms of timing. When the NHL training camps boot up again in December (if at all), do they just boogie back to Toronto or do they have to play out the seasons in the K?